Islam Has A Win In The Uk

[ukanonymous]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/edl-leader-tommy-robinson-quits--over-dangers-of-farright-extremism-8866177.html

Celebrations all round! No more thuggish protests about trying to preserve the last scrapes of british culture.

On a briighter note:

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkshire-islam-preacher-agrees-to-girl-14-marrying-1-6121125

[emmie]

not exactly a win, but the story of the Islamic preachers condoning under age marriages has got no press on here at all, unless i missed it, but BBC i think has done a documentary on it?

[ukanonymous]

Maybe but this is supposed to be the UK. Absolutely terrible.

[emmie]

i rather agree with you, alongside many of their more unsavoury habits, FGM being one of the most heinous.

[emmie]

sorry ITV

http://www.itv.com/news/2013-10-06/uk-imams-agree-to-perform-underage-marriages/

[mikey4444]

Lets hope he takes his Press and Education Spokesman with him.

And no, I won't post the EDL-You Tube link again, at least not this week !

[davetuc]

Not surprised at the photos they chose to illustrate the story. And I thought the Independent was supposed to be just that.....ie Independent.

[sandyRoe]

It's hardly a win for Islam when a thug sees the error of his ways.

[sp1814]

Perhaps he needs to concentrate on his other career - stalking critics of EDL and posting their addresses to his Twitter followers?

That takes an awful lot of time.

[sp1814]

I didn't know about the underage marriage thing.

Let's hope more light is shed on it, so that the practice can be driven out - God knows how many 1970s DJs will be lining up otherwise??!!

[sp1814]

emmie

EDL were formed to fight against the Islamification of the UK. I don't think that FGM has anything to do with Islam, so the EDL won't be particularly interested in it.

[andy-hughes]

Wonderful - this pompous puffed-up self-important fool has finally realised that his self-appointed role as the 'saviour' of western society has met with a massive wave if indifference from all who like to find an excuse to gather together in mobs and shout abuse at people different from themselves.

Hopefully the rest of his dreadful organisation will also melt away and occupy themselves in more profitable pursuits - working as railway sleepers, or speed bumps ...

[naomi24]

High time the apologists for Islam and its archaic practices got their heads out of the sand.

sp. Child brides.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9909233/Child-aged-two-was-at-risk-of-forced-marriage.html

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/Society/article1122316.ece

[andy-hughes]

Absolutely - as long as the Christian apologists do the same -

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse_in_the_Roman_Catholic_Church

[VHG]

>>>No more thuggish protests about trying to preserve the last scrapes of british culture.

So it is ok for muslim / islam thugs to threaten people is it?

One small step backward for democracy.

What happened to the maxim "I may not like what you say but I defend your right to say it".

As far as Muslims / Islam is concerned, if they don't like what you say they take a fatwa out on you.

A sad day for democracy.

[naomi24]

Andy, that is the closest thing I’ve seen to apologist nonsense here. This is not a 'tit for tat' situation, there can be no justification for it, and two wrongs don't make a right. Unacceptable practices are prevalent within our society – including the issue of the paedophilic Roman Catholic priests – and they must be acknowledged and addressed.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - my point exactly.

It is not a tit-for-tat situation - so why does everyone zero in on Muslim extremism, which is in a minority in our country, and ignore the abuses perpetrated by one of our own national faiths?

That is the point I was making.

[davetuc]

Andy - how can you say they are ignored. One example being how comedians get great mileage from knocking Christians but you very rarely, if ever, hear them making fun of Islamists, Moslems, etc. Also, anyone who IS prepared to speak out, is portrayed as a right-wing, racist bigot.

[Brenden]

Abslutely right, christianity is the faith of this country and uka we have our culture no more about the last scraps of british culture. we are a multiracial country who are tolerant of others religions, more than can be said in the middle east.

[FredPuli43]

Never thought Tommy Robinson would agree with me ! Now, if he stops visiting the homes of political opponents just to publicise where they live, I'll begin to think he's normal. If he disowns thuggery and violent demonstrations, what was the point of that exercise? Does he not think seriously of likely, or intended, consequences?

[LazyGun]

I must admit to being pretty surprised upon hearing this news on the radio. If true -and he has left, along with other leaders within the EDL for the reasons they state- I think we should all find that encouraging. Its not a victory for Islamic fundamentalism, but a victory for tolerance and moderation; together with a belated recognition that, rather than combating extremism with tit for tat hatred and violence, instead the roots of the radicalisation need to be combated through better education, the use of reason and rationality and the preaching of moderation rather than violence, provocative street marches and hatred/prejudice.

I note that the Quillian Foundation appear to have played a great part in this epiphany for Mr. Robinson, an organisation formed, at least in part, from ex-islamic radicals to combat islamic radicalism.

Another point made by Mr. Robinson and others in the general debate and indeed here on AB is that greater rejection of ectremism and hatred and intolerance and violence needs to be both seen and heard from the communities from which it comes.As Mr. Robinson says in his own words - he wanted to counter extreme islamic fundamentalism.It should never have been about being anti-Muslim, and one cannot escape the sense that for much of the membership of the EDL, that was what it was all about.