Cleggie Flexes His Muscles At Last

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-24599458

Cleggie seems to be acting like the little boy in the crowd, in the story of the Kings New Clothes. Too little and too late perhaps but welcome anyway.

[emmie]

teachers think its social networking that is the problem, surely not

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/8142721/Social-networking-teachers-blame-Facebook-and-Twitter-for-pupils-poor-grades.html

[jno]

emmie, the question I asked you was about whether school kids could write and do sums (as you said they couldn't), not whether there were places for them.

The people with babies now aren't boomers. Youngest boomers are in their late 50s. Only the most philoprogenitive males will still be reproducing.

[emmie]

all the while employing some third rate staff in state education, giving your child the benefit of their experience, and you can't sack those either, you will simply have a powerful union down on your head like a ton of bricks, we can all play that game.

And for your info, i worked at a company where i was part of a panel of interviewers Going on the initial CV, many candidates were poorly equipped, educated, and those that got to the interview stage, were more often or not badly dressed, rambling, sometime incoherent and often late for the interview, not a good start for any employee. It was a tough life then for employees, it's tougher still now, and a qualification in media studies doesn't cut it as a reason to get a job, unless you are hard working and actually want to work in the media, journalism or TV, which is very hard to get into.

[emmie]

this baby boom

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/baby-boom-boosts-capitals-population-to-record-83million-8751899.html

[naomi24]

Perhaps if Clegg is so concerned about what children are being taught in Free schools he might want to check on what Faith schools are teaching too. Did anyone see Richard Dawkins talking to a science class at a Muslim school where they were taught that the world is 6000 years old and that mountains were made to pin down the earth?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8814298/Richard-Dawkins-attacks-Muslim-schools-for-stuffing-childrens-minds-with-alien-rubbish.html

[emmie]

its not limited to those who came back from WW2 and started off their families.

[Gromit]

The setting up of Free Schools had nothing to do with Education, they were a political move to:

- take schools out of local authority control, many of whom are Labour run.
- to reduce the amount of money spent by central Government on education.
- to bye pass the National Cirriculum
- encourage de-unionised teaching staff
- to privatise education by the bad door.

There are no educational benefits to it.

[emmie]

Naomi, i did, if it was the one where who took a party of school children out for a nature ramble, they were sitting down by a beach?
He talked to them of Darwin and the theory of evolution.
and that their knowledge and perception were of those subjects. They were patently ignorant of Darwin, evolution, quoting from their studies of what the Qu'ran says. these youngsters simply accept what their Islamic teachers tell them, no mention of Darwin, and the sciences that have debunked the earth being 6,000 years old or some such nonsense. They were hard put to believe him?

[emmie]

gromit, is that what the parents think?

[Gromit]

Emmie

There is no baby boom. The rate has fallen annually for 40 years. The last couple of years have seen an increase for the first time in 4 decades, but that is not a boom.

[emmie]

sorry typo again, the schoolchildren were hard pushed to believe Dawkins and that the parents of the children were of a similar mind, at least that is what the children had indicated.

[emmie]

so the figure, link, lie ?

[emmie]

so why do they say it is, or should we bandy words, and call it a spike.. you may not notice it if you don't live in the capital, or a large city.

[Gromit]

Emmie,

// gromit, is that what the parents think? //

The parents think that religious indoctrination is education.

The majority of these schools are faith schools. Christian, Muslim, Sikh and Jewish. Because they are free to ignore the national cirriculum they can teach mumbo jumbo all day, and the parents are very happy about that.

[emmie]

can you supply the stats that most of the free schools that have been set up are faith based and that is the only reason they were set up? i am genuinely interested. I don't believe there should be faith schools of any type, that has been a long held belief not just something i tacked on


http://www.education.gov.uk/schools/leadership/typesofschools/freeschools

[emmie]

am interested in what Gove said about religious fundamentalist schools. somewhat long reading but it's somewhere down the page,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_school_%28England%29

[jno]

oh, that's another boom. The Baby Boom was postwar and covered much of Europe and the USA, plus Canada, Australia etc. This one covers Tower Hamlets and Hillingdon, which isn't quite the same.

[emmie]

isn't it, oh dear so no war to kill off millions, only more people jettisoned into the capital - to overload an already overstretched infrastructure, so no baby boom outside the capital, not from anyone - seems strange that it would only be here, and in two boroughs,

[emmie]

so office of national statistics should not be taken at its word, or indeed anyone, no boom in birth rates, fine.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10155449/Britains-baby-boom-will-affect-our-economy-more-than-anything-Mark-Carney-does.html

[emmie]

Clegg will likely join in with Labour, i would be amazed if he sticks it out with the Tories next election, after all they are not exactly a match made in heaven