Execution Of Prisoners

[jake-the-peg]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/10432095/Recording-of-Royal-Marines-accused-of-murdering-Taliban-prisoner-released.html

Court marshals have the same sentencing powers as civillian courts but are they under the same mandatary rules?

If these Royal Marines are found guilty of this murder will we see the same life sentences that a civillian would have to hand down?

Or will we see more suspended sentences like Danny Nightingale?

Will they be named if found guilty?

[sandyRoe]

If they're convicted and sentenced to life-I can't see what other sentence they could receive- it's likely they be released in two or three years.
I can't see, either, why they were granted anonymity. The Taliban hardly present any threat to them now they're back in the UK.

[mushroom25]

breaking news - two acquittals, one conviction. guess you'll have your answer soon enough.

[ChillDoubt]

Danny Nightingale is a moot point given he wasn't tried for murder, but then I expect nothing less from the poster who barely conceals his contempt for HM Forces.

As for murder, it sounded more like a coup de grace to me and I expect an appeal almost immediately.

[ChillDoubt]

The Taliban hardly present any threat to them now they're back in the UK.
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But persons of interest to the Poppy burners, et al.

[jake-the-peg]

No he smuggled an illegal firearm and amunition into the UK which would have attracted a 5 year sentence at least to a civillian

When people commit crimes like that and get let off with a suspended sentence is there any wonder that people are contemptuous.

BTW glad there were two acquittals - the evidence against the first seemed very strong but not that the other two were complicit before the fact.

They should have been charged with a lesser offence of covering it up though.

I'll bet they're glad you're not their defense council Chill

A coup de grace is hardly a defense against shooting someone

[ToraToraTora]

They'll get life which means they'll be out in 10 in civvy street but I'd imagine in a military prision they'll serve a lot more so rest happy jake.

[sandyRoe]

Do military prisons hold long-term inmates? The convicted man will be moved to an ordinary prison where he'll see less porridge then any other convicted murderer.

[youngmafbog]

Military prison is no easy life either. The same rules do not apply, it is worse.

//The Taliban hardly present any threat to them now they're back in the UK//

Hmmm, a little naive.

[ToraToraTora]

No he'll be moved to a civvy holiday camp but still under military jurisdiction, it's a sort of out sourcing, hang on!

[youngmafbog]

Surely at least some time in a military prison?

[anotheoldgit]

sandyRoe

/// I can't see, either, why they were granted anonymity. The Taliban hardly present any threat to them now they're back in the UK.///

You are not serious are you, we don't know who is in this country.

[anotheoldgit]

It's a case of double standards here, the so called leader of the Taliban is killed by a drone attack, Bin Laden is tracked down and shot, and it is a re-joyful matter.

But here we have three soldiers who have gone through what some of us could not possibly imagine, and have seen their mates slaughtered, dismembered and their body parts hanging from trees, they then come across a seriously wounded enemy, and dispatch him on his way, nothing that would not have expected happening to themselves, if the tables had been reversed.

Not condoning what they did however, but going part of the way to understanding their feeling at that particular time, remembering that horrible things happen during a war.

[FredPuli43]

The way it works is that any offence contrary to our law is contrary to military law and therefore it is tried by court martial, if alleged against anyone subject to military law. There are offences unique to military law, so that encompassing provision is necessary. The court martial's powers are those of a civilian court and governed by the general law, save that it has the power to reduce in the ranks, to dismiss from the service in disgrace etc

Colchester's "Glasshouse" has a harsher regime and harder conditions than a civilian prison because soldiers are accustomed to a harsher regime and harder conditions in their lives than civilians are. It is not however designed for 'lifers' and such a prisoner will serve his sentence in a prison for 'lifers'.

[viv38]

One Marine found guilty, the other two no charge.

[FredPuli43]

Yes, AOG, we get into niceties and doubtful morality when we speak of enemies being shot. Bin Laden could have been taken alive but for the allegation that he presented an immediate threat to the safety of the squad who arrived, fully armed, by military helicopter. Had he been taken alive, no lawful reason for killing him extra-judicially could have been found.

The Taliban leader killed by drone strike was lawfully killed because he was actively acting as an enemy who was waging war. Had he been taken alive and then killed, that would have been murder.

This marine did not shoot someone active in combat, but calmly when the man was in captivity and presented no threat

[emmie]

one has been found guilty, it's on the news now, and will receive a life term or so the report says.

[emmie]

sandyr, so you don't think we have terrorists that could exact their own punishments in this country if the identities are known. He has been found guilty of murder.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2492816/BREAKING-NEWS-Royal-Marine-convicted-murder-Taliban-insurgent-shot-chest-close-range--comrades-CLEARED.html

/// 'An execution of a man who was entitled to be treated with dignity and respect and entitled to be treated as any British serviceman or servicewoman would be entitled to be treated in a similar situation.' ///

Yes but the trouble being we might expect to be treated with dignity and respect, but never are, not by our enemies.