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Jack Straw Admits It Was A Spectacular Mistake
On Immigration: Straw finally admits Labour 'messed up' by letting in one million East Europeans!!!!!!
So that's OK is it Jack, now you are more than comfortably off, and living in your luxury home?
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So that's OK is it Jack, now you are more than comfortably off, and living in your luxury home?
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If you can point to any Tory policy that would have provided a greater barrier to the influx of barriers, you might have a point with all the exclamation marks. As it is,you cannot - and the CBI and business in general were very supportive of the influx of cheap labour from eastern europe, since it kept wage costs down and profit margins up.There is nothing business likes more than a large unemployment pool and cheap labour."New" Labour badly underestimated the numbers coming in, it is true, and that is too their discredit, but I cannot recall the Tories of the time raising alarms or offering different systems of immigration and control, nor could they, since the story of recent immigration has been from eastern european members to the EU, over which national governments have only a small input.
The legacy remains. Government do the bare minimum to ensure that wages match the minimum wage criteria. If they were more rigorous in the enforcement of such minimum standards, that itself would provide some disincentive to hiring non domestic workers. Infrastructure development especially in certain urban areas has lagged badly behind requirements, as a consequence of the mistake in forecasting, meaning education and health systems are put under sever strain.
I don't know that this is news either; several of the Labour grandees have already said the same thing. Hopefully, people not just in the UK but across Europe will have learnt some lessons - The pattern of mass human migration for decades has been a kind of osmosis, with economic migrants gravitating towards those more affluent and economically active trading blocs, such as the EU. Some reflection on this is definitely required.
The legacy remains. Government do the bare minimum to ensure that wages match the minimum wage criteria. If they were more rigorous in the enforcement of such minimum standards, that itself would provide some disincentive to hiring non domestic workers. Infrastructure development especially in certain urban areas has lagged badly behind requirements, as a consequence of the mistake in forecasting, meaning education and health systems are put under sever strain.
I don't know that this is news either; several of the Labour grandees have already said the same thing. Hopefully, people not just in the UK but across Europe will have learnt some lessons - The pattern of mass human migration for decades has been a kind of osmosis, with economic migrants gravitating towards those more affluent and economically active trading blocs, such as the EU. Some reflection on this is definitely required.
FredPuli43
/// Go back a bit , baz, starting in 1964-1970, with Harold Wilson. Then you have 1970-1974, Edward Heath (Conservative), 1974-1976, Wilson again, 1976-1979 , James Callaghan. That's 25 years , of which 4 were under a Conservative government. ///
Can't quite get my head round your figures, 1964 to 1979 that's 15 years surely?
1964 - 1970 Wilson Labour !974 - 1976 Wilson Labour, 1976 - 1979 Callaghan Labour = 11 years under Labour.
1970 - 1974 Heath Conservatives = 4 years
/// Go back a bit , baz, starting in 1964-1970, with Harold Wilson. Then you have 1970-1974, Edward Heath (Conservative), 1974-1976, Wilson again, 1976-1979 , James Callaghan. That's 25 years , of which 4 were under a Conservative government. ///
Can't quite get my head round your figures, 1964 to 1979 that's 15 years surely?
1964 - 1970 Wilson Labour !974 - 1976 Wilson Labour, 1976 - 1979 Callaghan Labour = 11 years under Labour.
1970 - 1974 Heath Conservatives = 4 years
When talking about immigration one should equal this country to a very large company.
The head of such a company would not take in large numbers of employees who would be of no use to his company, just because they wanted to become employees, he would be very selective and only allow those into his company who would be beneficial to the said company.
No company would last long if they employed everyone who came knocking at their door.
The head of such a company would not take in large numbers of employees who would be of no use to his company, just because they wanted to become employees, he would be very selective and only allow those into his company who would be beneficial to the said company.
No company would last long if they employed everyone who came knocking at their door.
/When talking about immigration one should equal this country to a very large company/
Why?
Company Directors are there to make a profit and serve stockholders
Governments are there to serve the greater good
Company directors can make people redundant, sack them or sell off bits of the company
Governments are stuck with whoever can legitimately claim citizenship including people who have been there for generations but are of no practical use
Why?
Company Directors are there to make a profit and serve stockholders
Governments are there to serve the greater good
Company directors can make people redundant, sack them or sell off bits of the company
Governments are stuck with whoever can legitimately claim citizenship including people who have been there for generations but are of no practical use
The question is why Britain and two other member states, Ireland being one (I forget the other), did not have the same 7 years embargo on immigration from these countries as other states enforced, and were allowed. Surely the government must have seen, whatever it told us, that we and the other two would get all the immigrants who could not get into the others? It cannot have thought what a good idea it was to have British unemployed figures increasing, just to get cheaper labour doing the jobs, could it?
Or did it think that our unemployed would not do the work anyway, through lack of the necessary skills, being work-shy, or otherwise, and would opt to live on benefits? The burden fell on local infrastructure, such as schools. It did not result in race riots against Poles, so the arrival passed comparatively peacefully.
Or did it think that our unemployed would not do the work anyway, through lack of the necessary skills, being work-shy, or otherwise, and would opt to live on benefits? The burden fell on local infrastructure, such as schools. It did not result in race riots against Poles, so the arrival passed comparatively peacefully.
in a rush got my numbers wrong...big deal, apologies to all the pedants on here
and ruin wasnt a typo
both governments have one way or another via immigration done their best to change this countrys identity, but labour and the leftie luvvies have excelled.
for the most part they hate the fact that this is a white majority country
and ruin wasnt a typo
both governments have one way or another via immigration done their best to change this countrys identity, but labour and the leftie luvvies have excelled.
for the most part they hate the fact that this is a white majority country
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