New Look Flag

[emmie]

can't say i like this
let us hope that the Scots and those who vote for independence don't win, or if they do we get a better design than this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25205017

[emmie]

no it won't i would have thought. We won't be a United Kingdom. If Scotland gets its independence i sincerely hope its a complete and utter break, not this half baked nonsense that Alex Salmond seems to want.

[jno]

emmie, no, nothing to do with empire, it just looks a mess, different flags superimposed on each other. People don't notice it because they're familiar with it; but if someone proposed that design now, it'd get the same reaction as the others in your link.

[shoota]

Perhaps we could call it Dis-United Kingdom and den keep da flag....

[emmie]

let's hope we keep it.

[2sp_]

I really do hope that it's not changed.

[anotheoldgit]

Simple, revert back to what it was before Scotland joined, the red cross on a white background (Flag of St George)

[emmie]

perhaps, but i would rather keep what we have now, irrespective of the outcome of next years independence referendum

[Kromovaracun]

"Simple, revert back to what it was before Scotland joined, the red cross on a white background (Flag of St George)"

What about Wales?

[anotheoldgit]

Kromovaracun

/// What about Wales? ///

Don't need to, they are part of England and a Principality.

*** In 1536, under Henry VIII, the Act of Union joined England and Wales officially. ***

[ChillDoubt]

Don't need to, they are part of England
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Nearly spat my tea all over the screen!
You must have been making reference to Agincourt, where the Welsh archers ensured success for Henry's army.....

[youngmafbog]

/// What about Wales? ///

Leave them out, they will be off next anyway, why waste money on an interim flag

[sandyRoe]

The green, white, and red one is similar to the flag of the Basque people.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3Tj3lFeEnrXw2kEcrkm2EkN6Anoq8cKlXySpjNwlXvZs8np2p8w

[Ken4155]

I quite like the fifth design, very artistic.

[anotheoldgit]

ChillDoubt

/// Nearly spat my tea all over the screen!
You must have been making reference to Agincourt, where the Welsh archers ensured success for Henry's army..... ///

Wasn't that Henry V and didn't the battle take place in 1415, 121 years before Henry VIII joined England & Wales together officially?

[ichkeria]

This is all just people playing around 'vexatious vexillologists'!
I cannot see the flag being changed. For one thing it's not accurate anyway as Wales isn't there, and the Irish bit is for the whole of Ireland and wasn't changed after partition/independence.
It would raise more issues than it would solve. The flag has become a symbol of the UK whatever it consists of

[ChillDoubt]

No AOG, you said that England an Wales were joined, as if they'd become one country, when in fact:

Welsh national identity emerged among the Celtic Britons after the Roman withdrawal from Britain in the 5th century, and Wales is regarded as one of the modern Celtic nations. Llywelyn ap Gruffydd's death in 1282 marked the completion of Edward I of England's conquest of Wales, though Owain Glyndŵr briefly restored independence to what was to become modern Wales, in the early 15th century. The whole of Wales was annexed by England, and incorporated within the English legal system, under the Laws in Wales Acts 1535–1542.

[Zeuhl]

/Don't need to, they are part of England and a Principality./

Well No actually

That is a contradiction

Wales is a Principality (the domain of a Prince) which makes it a unique addition to the kingdom

and not 'part of england'

Sussex is part of England
Devon is part of England

Wales is ..... Wales

annexed by force a long time ago but still a very distinct entity

[Famous5]

The Union Flag at present combines the flags of the patron saints of the countries. If we need a new flag excluding Scotland why not consider the three lions

[ChillDoubt]

Famous5,
The cross of St David does not appear on the Union Flag.

[emmie]

it should be left as it is.