So To Some Black Men, White Women Are Just Trophys To Hang Around Their Necks.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2517785/Artist-Nate-Hill-drapes-white-Trophy-Scarves-neck.html

If this is not demeaning towards white women as well as being blatantly racist I do not know what is.

[ummmm]

Do you not think that some working class men view their wives as trophy wives?

It's all about how you view yourself and how you view the person you're in a relationship with.

[andy-hughes]

Thanks for clarifying AOG - I thoought it out of character for you to step back when a debate is in full swing.

To add to my previous answer - my perception of this situation is that this man is drawing attention to what he sees as a 'complex social issue' whereas, as I said, I believe he is about half a century too late.

This is on a par with saying that men with cropped hair are football hooligans - it may have been broadly true once, but certainly no longer.

I think he is attempting to shock, which as a 'performance artist' is within his remit, and he has succeeded, and he is offering a social comment which is years out of date, and he has failed.

As far as the AB ladies are concerned, I would venture to suggest that few of them think it worth their time to comment - it's simply another man attention-seeking - so par for the course!

[emmie]

i didn't and don't find the photos appalling, it just is, i tell you what is appalling is how many women are raped, sexually assaulted, battered and killed on a weekly, daily basis in Britain, that is more something to get angry about.

[andy-hughes]

I regard the present Mrs Hughes as a trophy wife - but only in my mind!

[Mamyalynne]

Em , agreed those topics are very serious but not part of this discussion as I perceive it.


Andy - isn't that what we used to call 'A catch' ?

[pixie373]

Lol. Well said, Andy.

[anotheoldgit]

Mamyalynne

/// Interestingly (or not) Nate does not see himself as Black..///

Really believe that do you, most mixed race see themselves as black, but then they are in the unique position to be either black or white according to which is most advantageous.

Perhaps the next time this 'artist' wants to get his own particular point over he will see himself as black.

[ummmm]

And that's it Andy. It's how someone feels.

[ummmm]

// most mixed race see themselves as black//

Really? How do you know that?

I think it's more likely that white people see them as black.

[Mamyalynne]

AOG, I have absolutely no way of knowing whether that is what he truly believes and in retrospect like my many attempts at comments in the News topic, was probably a waste of key strokes.

[Mamyalynne]

This question has brought back an old memory though......an Aunt was quizzing me on my future husband's background/prospects etc

At the end of the conversation she said 'You've done well for yourself there Lynne' I guess some things never really change.

[anotheoldgit]

emmie

/// if he was white and draped a bevy of black women across his shoulders would that be as shocking? would the black community be up in arms, probably not i suspect. ///

Mmmmmmm know them that well do you, I am sorry but I suspect they would be 'up in arms', that is if such pictures would be allowed to be published.

[pixie373]

Not at all mamya. Some of us are listening. Doesn't a "trophy" just mean a "prize". Is a rich husband a trophy?

[ummmm]

You are so out of touch with reality, AOG!

[emmie]

i would say from my own experiences and the mixed race men and women i have socialised, worked with they consider themselves black as above bi racial, or whatever label is current.
as to the other matters i cited, perhaps it isn't in the post, however these snaps seem quite tame in comparison with many i have seen. Art for art sake, well is what he posed as art or just trying to make a point, who knows.
i don't get annoyed at such photo's, subject matter,

[charlieuniform3]

There's out of touch and never in it - I believe the op has never been in reality and spends all his time living in a thatched cottage with a white picket fence and cherry trees in full blossom all year round!

[viv38]

Really ????

[emmie]

i doubt that...

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// As far as the AB ladies are concerned, I would venture to suggest that few of them think it worth their time to comment - it's simply another man attention-seeking - so par for the course ///

Now you do not really believe this do you Andy any more than you believed I would shrink away from debate?

Obviously unlike you, I have never classed the ladies on Answerbank as 'shrinking violets' no generally they come out fighting in support of their femininity, but for some reason only known to themselves in this case many have chosen not to get involved, and that is their privilege, but even without their support I still deem this all rather offensive towards our ladies.

[ummmm]

It's NOT offensive, simple as that!