Good Move By The Pm?....if A Bit Late

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25421086
Should have done this months ago! Will this make the invaders think twice about comming if they can't get handouts for 3 months?

[bazwillrun]

far too little, far too late.

why only 3 months...why not one year ?

plenty of them might be able to get funds and help to last 3 months from their fellow tricksters that have already scammed us into staying here and claiming

its an oods on cert they will be well versed on how to still fiddle and get round the system long before they even leave from whereverit is theyre coming from

[jake-the-peg]

This is already the normal state of affairs - the legislation is entirely proposed for political basis

Only 6% of immigrants claim benefits in the first 6 months and the government's refused to give figures for the first 3 months!

Entirely designed to make them look as if they're doing something while changing nothing

[jim360]

Tricksy foreignerses, they stole the precious!

[ToraToraTora]

well in the link it says:

"But critics say EU rules already mean residents of one country are not expected to claim benefits in another for their first three months there."

"not expected" is hardly a legal term. Are we saying that it is already not possible to claim benefits in an EU nation until you have been there 3 months? sounds like a forlorn hope rather than an actual rule.

[DaisyNonna]

More obfuscation

[sandyRoe]

If these people are destitute it can only lead to more begging on our streets.

[EDDIE51]

Those that come to claim benefits are a very small minority , most are coming to work. They mainly already have jobs to go to.

[EDDIE51]

Read the link, there are already 100,000 of them here working. That 100,000 have arranged jobs for others ready for when they arrive .

[Gromit]

You have been duped. This announcement will not put of Romanians and Bulgarians but that wasn't the aim. The announcement was designed to placate right wingers and right wing newspapers and it seems to have worked, for now.

The 1 million Poles who came under the last Government did not instantly receive 'handouts', they didn't need them, they got jobs. If the new batch of immigrants have jobs to come to, being denied benefits that they were not going to get in the first place will not make a jot of difference.

The only deterent is that the jobs market today is very different than 10 years ago. That will stop many economic migrants, not some daft desperate remark from Dave.

[ToraToraTora]

yes but can we clear this up, is it already the rule or is it an "expectation"? Jake, your point, do you know?

[jake-the-peg]

I think the situation is that there are particular and quite rare circumstances in which this happens.

I suspect that the Government has been unwilling to comment on what the figures are for 3 months tells you what you need to know - especially when the 6 month figure is under 6%

With regards to people from outside of the EEA this is covered by

Section 115(1),(3) of Labour's 1999 Immigration and Asylum act

Those from inside the EEA have to pass a 'habitually residency' test

http://www.housing-rights.info/habitual-residence-test.php

The DWP link to that is currently broken (interesting)

I rather suspect it mean you have to have been in the UK 3 months in most cases

[emmie]

according to the daily politics show it was already three months?
but then again i don't think anyone should land on these shores and be eligible for a lot longer.

[Gromit]

Recuitment agencies are already working in Bulgaria and Romania. If the economic migrants have a job when they arrive, 3 months without benefits is irrelevent.

[emmie]

by why should recruitment agencies abroad be able to recruit Poles, Latvians, Romanians, Bulgarians, one would hope those jobs are advertised to those in this country, through agencies, Job Centres, first. Because other wise it means the British worker doesn't get a look in. It would be like Goldman Sachs advertising in USA for only American staff, how would that be right..

[jake-the-peg]

Matter of interest how long do people think would be appropriate?

A year?

[sandyRoe]

I'd guess they would be trying to recruit workers for jobs in care homes, and the like. The sort of jobs that the native born won't do any more

[emmie]

how does anyone know for sure what British workers will or won't do. that always gets up my nasal passages. Because currently there are millions employed, so they can't all be lazy can they?

[sandyRoe]

One reason is that the vacancies aren't where the unemployed are. If someone lived in the north of England a minimum wage job in a care home in the south east isn't really an option.

[EDDIE51]

The jobs are available to British workers but very few want them, they are all minimum wage jobs at £6.30 an hour. The average take home pay in Bulgaria and Romania is £300 a MONTH ( was on TV last night) so a job at £6.30 an hour ( over £1000 a month without overtime ) is a fortune to them, At least 3 to 4x what they can earn at home. In 5 years working here they can send enough money home to build a new house.