The Changing Face Of Britain

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2545563/Two-faces-Benefits-Street-No-drugs-no-drunks-no-crime-no-foul-language-Now-hard-working-communitys-turned-moral-cesspit-say-families-raised-prouder-age.html

What or who is responsible for the vast change that we now see today compared to the Britain of the 50s?

[emmie]

lower classes with even lower morals and scruples, gosh you didn't get that right, many so called lower classes had more morals, scruples than the upper classes who weren't not averse to shagging anything that moved, including the poor house maids, some who produced children who were promptly sent off to the workhouse and she consigned their as well.
in fact the pictures don't show middle classes, they show how most of the families i grew up with looked like, dad, mum both in work, proud of their homes, scrubbed front door steps, and grates on the coal fireplaces
unless you grew up in that time you wouldn't know.
what has changed is we have a massive welfare state, one that didn't exist in the way it does now, not certainly when i was born and growing up.

[emmie]

the two wars changed everything, the class system, the hierarchical system and our way of life, many of the changes have been more than beneficial, better health care, better housing, sanitation, food that is plentiful, and rarely do children die of once incurable diseases, so there is a lot to be thankful in modern times. However it has brought a certain sense of entitlement, i want it now mentality, not good when you borrow money you don't have, because you want the big tv, car, better to save some for a rainy day, because the one thing you can't predict is losing your job, your partner, and finding that life doesn't treat you kindly thereafter.

[emmie]

steve, it was the lower classes comments that did it, most if not all the families i grew up with were in work, mother, father, aunties, uncles, friends, they were not slackers, shirkers, some had reason to not work, having survived the wars, some seriously injured, but had some form of work.
it was considered shameful if you didn't have a job, and in a time of enough work to go around, most had one.

[Brenden]

I agree emmie, today there is no shame in anything -

[anotheoldgit]

LazyGun

/// you decide that their is little difference between the parties says more about you than it does about the political parties themselves - although I will agree with you that party ideologies have narrowed and coalesced around a centrist platform in recent decades. ///

Then surly by your own admission, it is a fact that there is little difference between the parties?

/// As to this nonsense about not being able to speak your mind - we have never been freer to speak our minds, but the right to speak your mind comes with some obligations too. Only a child thinks they should be able to do anything, say anything, without fear of consequence. ///

That is almost like saying, you are perfectly free to speak your mind, but if by doing so, you must be prepared to suffer the consequences.

That could also apply anywhere even North Korea.

[Zacs-Master]

We seem pretty free to speak our minds on here, within reason.