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American, British forces leave, experts are suggesting that the Taliban won't be able to wrest back control, i wonder...
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We can only hope and pray that everything pans out for the better. Because if it doesn't, the loss of every soldier to have died out there will have been in vain.
14:06 Mon 27th Jan 2014
/// Nowadays the Afghan army and police are an impressive body of men (and to a relatively small extent, of women), who have been thoroughly trained and show a real pride in themselves. ///
Yes but can they be trusted? they haven't been proven trust worthy in the past, when they have murdered our own soldiers.
But if the majority of them are trustworthy, then perhaps they have every chance to keep the Taliban in check, because thanks to the West they have the superior equipment, and they won't be fighting with one arm tied behind their backs, like we have been forced to do.
Yes but can they be trusted? they haven't been proven trust worthy in the past, when they have murdered our own soldiers.
But if the majority of them are trustworthy, then perhaps they have every chance to keep the Taliban in check, because thanks to the West they have the superior equipment, and they won't be fighting with one arm tied behind their backs, like we have been forced to do.
Ken, sad for me to say such a thing, but our presence has been for nothing, i really don't think that the Afghani forces that have been trained will be sufficient, nor the Afghan police, it's still a lawless largely uncontrolled country, and terrorist fighters, guerillas, fare better at fighting in it because of it's terrain. The Russians came unstuck, as we did long ago, and can't see this working well in the future.
Just like when the Russians pulled out it will break down into a turf war with various tribally aligned warlords slugging it out.
Whether the Taliban will be able to beat these factions into some sort of order and impose some form of relatively stable government as they did before the west upset the apple cart remains to be seen
Whether the Taliban will be able to beat these factions into some sort of order and impose some form of relatively stable government as they did before the west upset the apple cart remains to be seen
this was then, women had much more freedom before the Taliban came calling.
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I don't disagree Emmie, it was totalitarian but compared with the utter anarchy left after the Russian withdrawal it was an order of sorts under which the life of the average Afghan did begin to improve
One of the main points of contention that led to the Russians being dragged into a war they did not want was the Afghan communists imposition of womens rights on a traditionally male dominated feudal society
If you look at our history, we were a far more mature society before womens rights were even considered and arguably there is still a way to go
One of the main points of contention that led to the Russians being dragged into a war they did not want was the Afghan communists imposition of womens rights on a traditionally male dominated feudal society
If you look at our history, we were a far more mature society before womens rights were even considered and arguably there is still a way to go
these are the sort of photos i was talking of, appalling
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from the link, is this what they are still facing, i suspect so
Upon seizing power, the Taliban regime instituted a system of gender apartheid effectively thrusting the women of Afghanistan into a state of virtual house arrest. Under Taliban rule women were stripped of all human rights - their work, visibility, opportunity for education, voice, healthcare, and mobility. When they took control in 1996, the Taliban initially imposed strict edicts that:
Banished women from the work force
Closed schools to girls and women and expelled women from universities
Prohibited women from leaving their homes unless accompanied by a close male relative
Ordered the publicly visible windows of women's houses painted black and forced women to wear the burqa (or chadari) - which completely shrouds the body, leaving only a small mesh-covered opening through which to see
Prohibited women and girls from being examined by male physicians while at the same time prohibited female doctors and nurses from working
from the link, is this what they are still facing, i suspect so
Upon seizing power, the Taliban regime instituted a system of gender apartheid effectively thrusting the women of Afghanistan into a state of virtual house arrest. Under Taliban rule women were stripped of all human rights - their work, visibility, opportunity for education, voice, healthcare, and mobility. When they took control in 1996, the Taliban initially imposed strict edicts that:
Banished women from the work force
Closed schools to girls and women and expelled women from universities
Prohibited women from leaving their homes unless accompanied by a close male relative
Ordered the publicly visible windows of women's houses painted black and forced women to wear the burqa (or chadari) - which completely shrouds the body, leaving only a small mesh-covered opening through which to see
Prohibited women and girls from being examined by male physicians while at the same time prohibited female doctors and nurses from working
I was once very pro the West going into Afghanistan, as the Taliban were behaving atrociously towards their own people. They are still doing it, as the attack on the little girl for wanting to go to school testifies, but I have no great feeling of confidence when the allied forces finally leave.
It is an uncivilised country, with largely uneducated and backward people, and we can't expect to work miracles in just a few years. It all very depressing.
It is an uncivilised country, with largely uneducated and backward people, and we can't expect to work miracles in just a few years. It all very depressing.
