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Another Tory Rebellion - Cameron Saved By Lefties
David Cameron was humiliated in parliament last night by a rebellion of his own MPs. A motion by a back bench MP attracted 85 rebels to defy the party. The motion was easily beaten but only after Cameron was forced to allow Conservative MPs to abstain in the vote. Which actually means all the Conservative MP didn't support Cameron.
Earlier in the day, the home secretary told them proposals in the motion were against the law. It was that which swayed Labour to vote against the motion. The motion was defeated by Labour and LibDem votes. The Conservatives abstained and 85 rebelled and voted for the motion. Cameron abstained on his own policy??
It was a timely illustration of just how weak Cameron his. How his leadership is undermined. When the EU Referendum charade collapses Cameron can expect more decent from the ranks, and then there is the inevitable drubbing in the European elections to look forward to.
Not an ideal situation a year before a general election.
Don't take my word for it, here is the Daily Telegraph's spin on it
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Will Tory splits and rebellions cost them the election?
Earlier in the day, the home secretary told them proposals in the motion were against the law. It was that which swayed Labour to vote against the motion. The motion was defeated by Labour and LibDem votes. The Conservatives abstained and 85 rebelled and voted for the motion. Cameron abstained on his own policy??
It was a timely illustration of just how weak Cameron his. How his leadership is undermined. When the EU Referendum charade collapses Cameron can expect more decent from the ranks, and then there is the inevitable drubbing in the European elections to look forward to.
Not an ideal situation a year before a general election.
Don't take my word for it, here is the Daily Telegraph's spin on it
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Will Tory splits and rebellions cost them the election?
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The United Kingdom carries a wide range of opinions and dividing people up into lefties, righties or political parties is always misleading. Both Labour and Conservative parties include xenophobes and racists, plus a load more who think they might keep their seats at the next general election if they jump on the "down with Johnny foreigner" bandwagon.
We now have the unedifying spectacle of 85 Conservative MPs voting to renege on the UK's international treaties. Our lawmakers include lawbreakers. Unfortunately rather too many of our electorate are incapable of seeing that and they'll vote for whoever the Sun and the Daily Maul tell them will "stop all them Belgonians coming over here stealing all our jobs and women".
We now have the unedifying spectacle of 85 Conservative MPs voting to renege on the UK's international treaties. Our lawmakers include lawbreakers. Unfortunately rather too many of our electorate are incapable of seeing that and they'll vote for whoever the Sun and the Daily Maul tell them will "stop all them Belgonians coming over here stealing all our jobs and women".
yes, velvety isn't quite how I'd desribe Cameron's position at the moment; his only hope is Miliband's utter anonymity.
But these times are full of strange omens
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Or as the holy Daily Mail put it...
// David Cameron’s authority was dented yesterday after he was forced to rely on Labour and Liberal Democrat votes to face down a mass rebellion by his backbenchers over immigration.
The Prime Minister appeared unable to control his party as 86 Tory MPs voted to stop foreign prisoners using the right to a family life in the Human Rights Act to stay in Britain.
On a day of farce in Westminster, Downing Street and the Home Office rejected an amendment tabled by Tory backbencher Dominic Raab as illegal and unworkable but then announced they would abstain on the vote rather than annoy the rebels. //
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// David Cameron’s authority was dented yesterday after he was forced to rely on Labour and Liberal Democrat votes to face down a mass rebellion by his backbenchers over immigration.
The Prime Minister appeared unable to control his party as 86 Tory MPs voted to stop foreign prisoners using the right to a family life in the Human Rights Act to stay in Britain.
On a day of farce in Westminster, Downing Street and the Home Office rejected an amendment tabled by Tory backbencher Dominic Raab as illegal and unworkable but then announced they would abstain on the vote rather than annoy the rebels. //
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/// Mr Raab said foreign criminals were using the ECHR as the “joker” to escape deportation. More than 200 successfully challenge deportation on human rights grounds each year, and about 90 per cent cite the “right to private and family life” under Article 8 of the convention. ///
I think that if it was left to public opinion, there would be huge support for these 85 rebels.
The sooner such thinkers as those rebel at how the present Conservative party have been weekend by it's leader and his Lib/Dem partners the better, perhaps with a stronger leader we will see the emergence of a true strong Tory government.
The time is long overdue, this country is becoming a laughing stock.
I think that if it was left to public opinion, there would be huge support for these 85 rebels.
The sooner such thinkers as those rebel at how the present Conservative party have been weekend by it's leader and his Lib/Dem partners the better, perhaps with a stronger leader we will see the emergence of a true strong Tory government.
The time is long overdue, this country is becoming a laughing stock.
Interesting to see, why there was no support for getting rid on that usual excuse of having the right to a family life, for convicted foreign criminals, while a motion to remove foreign-born terrorist suspects of UK citizenship was approved by 297 votes to 34.
Since they are only suspects, I would have thought the result would have been much different.
/// A controversial last-minute move by the Home Secretary to strip foreign-born terrorist suspects of UK citizenship was approved by 297 votes to 34, even though it could leave them “stateless”. Ministers had hoped the plan would quell the Tory revolt but the rebels stuck to their guns. ///
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Since they are only suspects, I would have thought the result would have been much different.
/// A controversial last-minute move by the Home Secretary to strip foreign-born terrorist suspects of UK citizenship was approved by 297 votes to 34, even though it could leave them “stateless”. Ministers had hoped the plan would quell the Tory revolt but the rebels stuck to their guns. ///
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/// These shenanigans do not reflect well on any of the parties. Labour and the Lib Dems killed off a perfectly reasonable effort to increase protection for law-abiding British citizens against foreign criminals. ///
/// All the parties should be producing urgent proposals to withdraw from the European Court of Human Rights, scrap the Human Rights Act and replace it with a British Bill of Rights that makes clear the rights of law-abiding citizens carry more weight than the whims of criminals. ///
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/// All the parties should be producing urgent proposals to withdraw from the European Court of Human Rights, scrap the Human Rights Act and replace it with a British Bill of Rights that makes clear the rights of law-abiding citizens carry more weight than the whims of criminals. ///
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