Is There Any Record Of Everyone On A Plane, Passengers And Crew, Being Overcome By Fumes...

[sandyRoe]

...and it crashing?

[mushroom25]

not fumes, but overcome, certainly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522

[sandyRoe]

I was thinking about the Malaysian flight. Maybe something similiar has happened to it.

[rockyracoon]

I was just reading that, the autopsy said that all on board were alive when it crashed but they couldn't say if they were conscious or not. Scary!

[black_cat51]

reading that made me really sad

[mushroom25]

just as scary was the root cause - a trifling oversight by the maintenance crew.

[rockyracoon]

Indeed, the flick of a switch and a whole different outcome :(

[trt]

But why would it change course sandy as stated. Has it been said it was on auto pilot?

[Clanad]

On October 6, 1955, in my home State here in the U.S., a United Airlines DC-6 aircraft inexplicably crashed into a vertical granite wall known locally as Medicine Bow Peak, during a night flight between Denver, Colorado and Salt Lake City, Utah. Forensics, being what they were at that date came to the conclusion that incapacitation of crew by carbon monoxide emanating from a faulty cabin heater caused the accident. The attribution still stands.

There are several other accident records that conclude that crew incapacitation due to fumes of one kind or another were at least contributory to the accident.

[ELVIS68]

Not fumes, but golfer Payne Stewart died in a plane lacking oxygen

[ToraToraTora]

smaller plane but the Golfer Payne Stewarts plane crashed after they all passed out.

[sandyRoe]

trt, I think I read somewhere that the change of course might indicate an attempt to get to another airport.

[ToraToraTora]

Elvis's answer was not there when I started typing!

[trt]

My above post was for the Malaysian flight.

[ChillDoubt]

I'm still of the opinion that it's something to do with the cockpit crew. Disagreement, deathwish, some sort of brain-fade I don't know, but for the transponder to be turned off and fly haphazardly at heights ranging from (allegedly) 5,000 feet to 41,000, that's certainly not the computer that's flying it.

[rockyracoon]

They seem absolutely sure that communication was switched off, I'm obviously a bit thick here because how would they know it was deliberate as opposed to an electrical fault?

[Peter Pedant]

ACARS they say is almost impossible to turn off.

I find it incredible there were no phone signals from any of the passengers....

[jno]

what time was it there? If night time, they may all have been asleep

[jomifl]

PP, as has been pointed out several times on other related threads, mobile phones have a maximum range of 40 km under ideal conditions. Mobile phone masts are designed to pick up signals from line of sight close to the ground.

[sandyRoe]

There are satellite phones but you'd not see them very often.

[237SJ]

When I flew Malaysian, you could text from the aircraft. It was part of their service but I can`t remember if you had to swipe a credit card or if it was something you could do quickly via the inflight entertainment system. That would have been via satellite although I presume that system could have been disabled as well.