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Number Of Muslims In Prison Doubles In Decade To 12,000
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It would seem that everyone and everything is to blame apart from the criminals themselves.
/// The shadow Justice Secretary, Sadiq Khan, said the Government’s “complacency [on the issue] is breath-taking”. ///
/// Muzammil Quraishi, a senior lecturer in criminology and criminal justice at Salford University, said: “Young Muslim men are under the official gaze from their school days onwards ///
/// Amal Imad, of the charity Muslim Aid, suggested that poor educational performance, problems finding fulfilling jobs and family breakdown were factors in the increasing numbers of Muslims behind bars. ///
/// Mizanur Rahman, a spokesman for the organisation Muslim Prisoners, blamed the spike on Islamophobia and racism among police officers. ///
It would seem that everyone and everything is to blame apart from the criminals themselves.
/// The shadow Justice Secretary, Sadiq Khan, said the Government’s “complacency [on the issue] is breath-taking”. ///
/// Muzammil Quraishi, a senior lecturer in criminology and criminal justice at Salford University, said: “Young Muslim men are under the official gaze from their school days onwards ///
/// Amal Imad, of the charity Muslim Aid, suggested that poor educational performance, problems finding fulfilling jobs and family breakdown were factors in the increasing numbers of Muslims behind bars. ///
/// Mizanur Rahman, a spokesman for the organisation Muslim Prisoners, blamed the spike on Islamophobia and racism among police officers. ///
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So whats this all about, sexism? There are 85,252 people in prisons and young offender institutions in England and Wales. The male prison population is 81,357 and the female prison population is 3,895.
19:56 Sun 30th Mar 2014
Before the start of 'The Troubles' in NI, the majority of prisoners were Catholics. Yet Catholics were only about 40% of the population. Was that evidence that they were more dishonest than their Protestant neighbours or that people at the bottom of the heap are more likely to turn to crime?
I'd say the number of Islamic prisoners is more to do with discrimination against their community than anything else.
I'd say the number of Islamic prisoners is more to do with discrimination against their community than anything else.
Svejk, I was thinking more of the circumstances that bring people to their first court appearance rather than their treatment once they get there.
In NI there were generations of people who had never had a job. Some would have resigned themselves to their fate and become 'economically inactive' while others might turn to crime.
I think I read somewhere that the unemployment figures for young Muslim people in the north of England are particularly high. You'd expect that some of them would turn off the straight and narrow.
In NI there were generations of people who had never had a job. Some would have resigned themselves to their fate and become 'economically inactive' while others might turn to crime.
I think I read somewhere that the unemployment figures for young Muslim people in the north of England are particularly high. You'd expect that some of them would turn off the straight and narrow.
I'm not sure that the stats about the proportion of Muslims in any single prison are all that relevant. The Prison population is 14% Muslim, so presumably if one prison had about 43% Muslims then another prison elsewhere would have rather closer to none at all. Perhaps there is some administrative decision to keep the Muslims together to make such matters as prison chaplaincy easier to organise?
The important figures are 14% total population of Muslim prisoners, or a little under 12,000, which is a little more than twice the population a decade ago. In the same time the overall Muslim population has increased by about 70%, I think, so there is some discrepancy between the two rates of increase. Why this is is a lot harder to assess, but given the presumed lag time between people arriving in this country and people committing crimes, it may be more appropriate to compare the population increase figures for a longer time period overall than for just prisoners.
The important figures are 14% total population of Muslim prisoners, or a little under 12,000, which is a little more than twice the population a decade ago. In the same time the overall Muslim population has increased by about 70%, I think, so there is some discrepancy between the two rates of increase. Why this is is a lot harder to assess, but given the presumed lag time between people arriving in this country and people committing crimes, it may be more appropriate to compare the population increase figures for a longer time period overall than for just prisoners.
Gromit
/// I am arguing that the muslims are not being discriminated against, and you are agreeing with Khan who thinks they are. ///
No you have got it wrong, where have I said that I agree with Khan?
I am just setting you the question that if you think that there is nothing in the figures that suggests that the Muslim prison population is not increasing, why do you think Khan is asking for an inquiry why it is?
/// I am arguing that the muslims are not being discriminated against, and you are agreeing with Khan who thinks they are. ///
No you have got it wrong, where have I said that I agree with Khan?
I am just setting you the question that if you think that there is nothing in the figures that suggests that the Muslim prison population is not increasing, why do you think Khan is asking for an inquiry why it is?
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