And Some Think Our Police Are Bad?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2597087/Nine-month-old-boy-clasping-bottle-appears-court-accused-planning-murder-Pakistan.html

[DTCwordfan]

And what's your point? - can't see any linkage here between the UK police and the Pakistani gestapo.

[Zacs-Master]

Why does that reflect badly on the police? Surely it's the judicial system that is at fault. If it's true.

[anotheoldgit]

DTCwordfan

/// And what's your point? - can't see any linkage here between the UK police and the Pakistani gestapo. ///

Ehhh!!!! the answer to your question is in the question.

But let me explain it further just for you.

There are some in our country who constantly complain about our police, but they should live in countries such as Pakistan where their police can only be described (as you yourself has done) as the "Gestapo".

[Svejk]

he looks like a high-rusk prisoner to me.

[Canary42]

So your argument AOG is that we shouldn't constantly complain about anything if it's worse in another country ?

[DTCwordfan]

They're such benign bunnies in Pakistan though.....yes, they make mistakes but don't ours make any goof-ups. Oh, no they don't......

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

/// Why does that reflect badly on the police? Surely it's the judicial system that is at fault. ///

It was the police who brought the complaint in the first instance.

/// A police report alleged the suspects tried to murder officers by throwing stones at them during the raid.The report lodged a complaint against Muhammad Yassen's whole family, which included his nine-month-old grandson. ///

/// Sub-Inspector Kashif Ahmed has now reportedly been suspended for registering the case against the child. ///

[DTCwordfan]

And if we don't challenge our police to their mistakes and cover-ups, how is there going to be change for the better , AOG? - =,or you believe that the status quo and the old "I'll scratch your back and cover everything up" is the way for the police to go? Try that attitude in Anfield, as just one example, and you wouldn't get out alive.

[Zacs-Master]

So AOG, you don't think the police should have brought the case?

[anotheoldgit]

DTCwordfan

/// And if we don't challenge our police to their mistakes and cover-ups, how is there going to be change for the better , AOG? - =,or you believe that the status quo and the old "I'll scratch your back and cover everything up" is the way for the police to go? Try that attitude in Anfield, as just one example, and you wouldn't get out alive. ///

You are taking things completely out of proportion, of course our police's less favourable actions should be questioned, but they are not all bad, and as it has been already pointed out, we are more lucky than most other countries to have the police service that we have, warts and all.

[Zacs-Master]

I think some families of the Hillsborough disaster victims would disagree and possibly some of the Saville victims.

[DTCwordfan]

Quite simply, if we are going to have one of the better police forces in the world, then we must challenge and prosecute when corruption or cover-up is involved, other the police become an entity to themselves or, even worse, an arrogant para-militia. Hand in hand with that is the quality of the judicial system and there can be failings in that, wit Italy or Pakistan.

[DTCwordfan]

One other point, to think that we have the best police in the world, well I think that this is arrogant and delusional. Have a look at the RCMP for example as a potential contender. It would be better to say 'one of the best five in the world - and we always seek to learn and improve'

[Zacs-Master]

And even they aren't above suspicion
http://robwipond.com/archives/245

[mikey4444]

If this story was in the papers on Tuesday, you might be forgiven for thinking it was an April Fool joke, albeit in very bad taste. If anyone wants a reason why militant, fundamentalist religion represents the worst in uncivilised and uneducated behavior, need look no further then this case.

[atalanta]

Don't the Pakistan authorities realise how stupid and spiteful they are making themselves look in the eyes of the world ?

[Gromit]

I see your point AOG.
Fools in Pakistan falsely charge a 9 month baby and the world laughs at them.

Which is obviously worse that charging innocent men such as the Birmingham Six, Guildfod Four, Winston Silcott etc.
Oh how the rest of the world laughed as those men rotted in British jails for decades.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

Mistakes do happen, these men stood trial in a court of law and were found guilty on the evidence provided at that time.

They were later released when later evidence was provided that showed them not guilty.

They were lucky, unfortunately innocent Timothy Evans in the Cristie case wasn't so fortunate.