Why Do The Germans Always Seem To Do Things Better?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2619742/Germans-logical-solution-address-World-Cup-security-fears-build-luxury-new-25-million-base.html

And please no references to WW2.

[royfromaus]

http://www.dfb.de/index.php?id=512816&tx_yag_pi1%5Bcontext538509%5D%5BalbumUid%5D=268&tx_yag_pi1%5Bcontext538509%5D%5BgalleryUid%5D=2&tx_yag_pi1%5BitemList538509%5D%5BpagerCollection%5D%5Bpage%5D=5&tx_yag_pi1%5Baction%5D=submitFilter&tx_yag_pi1%5Bcontroller%5D=ItemList&cHash=2c07060c36b4beac22ef4874543626d7


Sounds a great idea for all concerned to me

[jno]

you'd never be able to find a sun lounger, though, would you?

[anotheoldgit]

THECORBYLOON

/// Why should British football pay for an English FA project in a foreign country? ///

Oh dear please forgive me, I forgot one is quite in order to mention England when we are talking sport.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

Did I correct your mistakes adequately for you Gromit?

[Gromit]

What mistake of mine was that?

[jno]

it is not only in order to mention England in sport, it is necessary because England have their own teams (unless they think they won't win without some help, in which case it's GB, as in rugby league).

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// What mistake of mine was that? ///

"What 'mistakes' of mine 'were' that"? for starters.

/// The airport is 9 miles from the hotel. Which is 18 minutes by coach ///

*** 16 miles from Rio de Janeiro International Airport. ***

/// The Urca Military base is 7 miles from their hotel. They could walk there in less than 2 hours. By coach it would be about 15 minutes. ///

*** They will also be hoping not to spend up two hours of most of their days in Rio stewing on a coach between Urca and their Royal Tulip hotel base 10 miles down the coast. ***

[Gromit]

Rio International Airport flies international routes ( the clue is in the name). To fly to Soa Paulo, the venue for England's opening matches, they would fly from the domestic airport at Santos Dumont. It is 9 miles from the England hotel and does not involve going through the busy city centre.

I have just measure the distance to the Forte São João training camp on a satnav and it is 9 miles. Again, it is along the coast road rather than in the centre of Rio.

I would also assume that when the England team do travel, they will avoid the rush hour.

The England flight to Sao Paulo is likely no longer than half an hour, whereas the German flight to their venue is likely to be 3 or 4 hours.

[Gromit]

http://www.aeroportosantosdumont.net/en/santos-dumont-rio-de-janeiro-flight-timetable-schedules

[Gromit]

Just looked on Google Earth and there is a shorter route to the training camp that is 8 miles. And the roads look very quiet on Street view.

[Gromit]

Here is England's training camp.

http://www.urca.net/images/foto_escola_ed_fis.jpg

If anything, it looks better than the German one.

[jno]

that would certainly make up for the terrible shower reported on TripAdvisor in one room of the hotel.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// Rio International Airport flies international routes ( the clue is in the name). To fly to Soa Paulo, the venue for England's opening matches, they would fly from the domestic airport at Santos Dumont. It is 9 miles from the England hotel and does not involve going through the busy city centre. ///

This is what you put

// By contrast, the England team face a journey of up to three hours to the international airport from their hotel, the four-star Royal Tulip in Rio. //

// The airport is 9 miles from the hotel. Which is 18 minutes by coach. //

So in fact you were appertaining to the International airport, and made no mention of the domestic airport at Santos Dumont.

[jno]

the three-hour trip will presumably be when they arrive and when not too long after, they depart again. Internal trips will be from Santos Dumont. There haven't been any fatal accidents there for several years

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santos_Dumont_Airport#Major_accidents_involving_fatalities

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

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Gromit

/// Here is England's training camp. If anything, it looks better than the German one. ///

Since the England squad will be eating, relaxing and sleeping in the Hotel and not the training ground, the looks of their training ground don't come into it.
Perhaps security is more of an importance here?

*** While England have plumped for an ageing Rio hotel close to a gang-infested slum as their base, the Germans will luxuriate in a secluded, specially-built £25million resort within easy reach of all their games. ***

*** The hotel was named the InterContinental until 2010 when a group of gunmen from a drug gang stormed the lobby, taking 30 guests and staff hostage and killing one woman. ***

[jno]

oh lord, is that the InterContinental? I stayed there once, but I didn't recognise it. It had terribly slow lifts but no gang violence in the lobby. There was a favela quite nearby, though. Hotels know about these things and hire security - I don't know why they were unsuccessful in 2010.

[Gromit]

// Perhaps security is more of an importance here? //

Forte São João is a military base. It is fair to assume security will be better than a holiday complex next to the sea.

[Gromit]

A very misleading, inaccurate and England bashing effort from the Mail.

Still, some seem to lap up this kind of thing.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// Perhaps security is more of an importance here? ///

// Forte São João is a military base. It is fair to assume security will be better than a holiday complex next to the sea. //

I was referring to where they will live, not where they will train.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// A very misleading, inaccurate and England bashing effort from the Mail. ///

Don't blame just the Mail for such things, when you yourself are a past master at all three.