The English Democrats

[emmie]

did anyone see their party political broadcast on tv last evening, interesting to say the least, they are English not British, and most definitely not European, fun watching, not sure i would give them a vote though

http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/

[emmie]

have you ever lived here?

[pixie373]

Only visited. Hated it.

[DTCwordfan]

Like any place, here or overseas, it has its pluses and minuses. In Cornwall, the latter includes Lady J and myself....

Bring on my Putin party when Scotland accedes/is chucked out.

More seriously, the English D ad was built on fears and was a load of tosh....just like the United Khazi Insipid Pillocks, it's a question of inventing policy on the hoof. Which Fascist party in the EU are they affiliating with?

[New Judge]

I'm an English Londoner, emmie and speak, I hope, reasonably good English.

However, no matter how much money I had I would not live in inner London anywhere. That includes Mayfair, Chelsea, Notting Hill, Knightbridge or indeed anwhere else "nice". The place is a cesspit and however nice the enclave may be that you live in, as soon as you travel a short distance the niceness evaporates. Unless you are going to roam around in a chauffeur driven limo (not much of an existence) living there would be a nightmare. On the occasions I do have to go there I get to my destination as quickly as possible and return home at the first opportunity.

I'm absolutely with Nigel Farage - I despise being surrounded by people chattering away in foreign languages when I'm in England and in London there are many places where English is barely heard. When travelling by train Mr Farage usually travels uses the service from Charing Cross to Orpington (he lives in the village of Downe). On a slow train - which are the only ones available during peak hours - it is not until you get beyond Grove Park that English predominates.

Lots of people enjoy the "melting pot" (as it's quaintly described) that is London. I most certainly do not.

[emmie]

i would say it now has more minuses, i would never have said that once.
it has good things, night life, clubs, bars, theatres, but everything is so over the top expensive, and if you live cheek by jowl be prepared to do battle, as some are just absolute bstards, like the idiot woman on the jam packed bus, who told me to move so the apparently, though i honestly couldn't tell, pregnant woman friend could sit down -

[pixie373]

I don't think there are "nice" areas, nj. Just expensive ones.

[Zeuhl]

/with that money you could buy yourself a nice château in France, or better still a Tuscan villa and have some sun along with your favourite tipple. /

I'm with you on that emmie

my choice too

but some of my old mates can afford both (the b@st@rds!) ;-)

[Baldric]

DTC, think this answers that question

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Democrats#Nationalist_connections

[emmie]

Camden has gone to the dogs, the high street all the way up to Camden Market is a tourist haunt, the ugliest frontage on the shops, despoils what was a nice friendly family orientated neighbourhood. Parts of Islington has gone rather chi chi, lots of poncey shops, selling stuff that most can't afford, Lewisham, Southwark, Mile End, Bethnal Green large swathes of Bengali, Somali, Pakistani, some may have been here for a time, like parts of Brick Lane, but not my cup of tea. Then we have the ridiculous prices, 5 million is cheap for many of these properties, 1 million won't get you that much, not if you don't want to live in a rat hole.
So bring on Donald and his moolah, i could use a change of venue

[Zeuhl]

I must still be a northern lad entranced by London and its 'exoticism'

/however nice the enclave may be that you live in, as soon as you travel a short distance the niceness evaporates./

That seemed to be the case when I lived in Hampstead and Chelsea in the late 70s.

Maybe it has always been so.

My mate's house in Holland Park is beautiful and in a beautiful tree lined road. But its not far from some dodgy places.

But it's London!

[shaneystar2]

I lived in London for many years and loved it .I now live in the sticks .
If (big if) I were to win the lottery I would have no hesitation in buying myself a place there as a second home .In some ways I regret the decision we made to move away .I miss the culture and the big city buzz .

[emmie]

London has always been a hotpotch, and if you scratch the surface of Kensington and Chelsea who will find plenty of flea pit housing, same as any where, it just has a nice name, Kensington, grand, but not necessarily where one would want to live. Nottinghill another area made famous by the carnival and more famous for the film, which didn't feature any black people, not as far as i remember, yet there they live, work, play.

[emmie]

parts of Holland Park are nice, but not all, and believe me trawl through the back streets of Mile End and you wouldn't know you were in jolly England.

[pixie373]

It's not the people, it's the concrete, noise and dirt that i don't like.

[Zeuhl]

My biggest disappointment when I arrived in London in 1978, was that the old, fog shrouded terraces of the East End had been cleared and replacement slums built.

They were probably sh1t holes but I wanted the old Whitechapel, Bethnal Green and Limehouse.

[jno]

you probably just missed Jack the Ripper, then - bad luck. All the old East End characters gone.

[emmie]

and now the endless glass boxes, or buildings like the shard, that are going up all over the shop, you can't preserve a place in aspic, but nor can you undo much of the damage that's been done. according to one report, though would have to look into it, over 230 of these towers of various shapes are planned for the capital, offices, and some buy and rental properties, nothing for the ordinary joe bloggs of course, someone bought an apartment in 1 Hyde Park for 141 million, give or take a quid or two, and i don't think he even lives in it.

[emmie]

they reckon that jack the ripper was a well to do aristo, hell bent on avenging himself on ladies of the night, he certainly had a good go, going on the way they were dispatched or perhaps was a doctor, surgeon for the same reason.

[DTCwordfan]

Or the Prince of Wales - was Edward VII an English Democrat?

[emmie]

wasn't he a German...