Boko Haram....

[ToraToraTora]

it just occurred to me that I have not noticed any protestations from "moderate" Islam over the kidnapping of the school girls. Are the media omitting to report it or is there tacit support? It seems a good opportunity for Islam to demonstrate to the west that they are serious about their opposition to extremists.

[Gromit]

Emmie,
The Lebanon Hostages were held for up to 6 years. Despite the best efforts of the CIA and Mossad, if a terrorist group want to hide hostages and use them for bargaining for prisoners, they will do.

Other Muslim Governments, Muftis, Ayatollahs have no influence on these people because they are primarily anti authoritarian. They are nationalists like ETA and the IRA. No amount of condemnation by the Pope, Priests or Peace campaigners changed the course of ETA or the IRA.

Some of the World's problems are not instantly solved. Especially by the US interfering. The problems in Nigeria seem to have escalated since the US designated them as al Queda associates six months ago.

[naomi24]

//Some of the World's problems are not instantly solved.//

Funny how most of the world's problems are now created by Islamic militants - and until they get their way, those problems will never be solved. Life for them is cheap.

[Gromit]

// most of the world's problems are now created by Islamic militants //

Don't be daft.

[naomi24]

Daft? Why? Look around you.

[jim360]

"Most" of the World's problems? That is surely a gross exaggeration. It's hard to see, for example, how Islamic Militancy can be held directly responsible for, say, irresponsible Banking, or World Debt generally; the drug scourges in Mexico and South America; issues around Climate; mine safety in Turkey, etc. etc.

That Islamic Militancy is a serious problem is obvious and unarguable. That it's the most serious problem is debatable; that it's responsible for most of the problems we have is an exaggeration in the extreme.

[naomi24]

Jim, all the things you mention are certainly problems, but none of them individually, or collectively, present mortal danger to the people of the world at large. Militant Islam does.

[HARPY]

Are they still the big suppliers of Heroin ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXX9Y0bfirY

[Gromit]

Militant Islam is not a present mortal danger to the people of the world. It is not a danger to me. It is not a danger to the people of Ukraine. It is not a danger to people in South Africa, Mexico, Chile, North Korea or the vast majority of countries in the world. You have just repeated your over exaggeration again.

Your extreme Islamaphobia seems to be getting the better of you.

[jim360]

I'd say that Climate change certainly has the potential to present significant mortal danger, although it probably won't be Doomsday. But regardless, the point is that there are far more problems of various scales that have absolutely nothing to do with Islam, let alone Militant Islam, than there are problems that do.

Incidentally, some estimates say that in the seven years from 2006, around 120,000 people in Mexico died. That's quite a lot (although the official figure is something closer to half that). Just because it's confined to Mexico doesn't stop it being a serious problem that can just be overlooked.

Oh, and while I'm thinking about it, Tuberculosis still is wholly or partly responsible for over a million deaths a year. That certainly IS a mortal danger that vastly overshadows anything Al Qaeda et al can manage. Let's hope they don't try too hard to outcompete TB, though.

"Most of the world's problems"? However serious Militant Islam undoubtedly is, that's just hyperbole.

[sunny-dave]

Perhaps we could go to "Organised Religion has created (and continues to create) a significant proportion of the world's problems" ?

Not as snappy as just blaming Islam for everything, but more easily defensible?

[naomi24]

Gromit, very few places are untouched by radical Islam …. except perhaps North Korea - but that really is scraping the barrel.

Mexico, http://www.examiner.com/article/breaking-islamic-terrorists-plot-to-attack-u-s-from-mexico

South Africa, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_South_Africa

Latin America, http://www.theamericasreport.com/2009/03/12/islamic-terrorism-in-latin-america/

Ukraine: http://rt.com/news/islamic-terrorist-group-halted-in-ukraine/

No surprise you’ve resorted to that age-old response designed specifically to shut people up –Islamophobia.

[ToraToraTora]

The cause of most problems is religion.

This is apparently our fault because we merged believers in 2 different sets of fairy tales. Funny how the anti British are always telling us how insignificant we are in the world and at the same time everything is our fault! funny that.

[sunny-dave]

One does wonder how long we must continue to feel our 'post colonial guilt', TTT.

We're over 50 years and still 'responsible' - will 100 years do it?

[Gromit]

TTT

It is usually you right whingers who tell us we are now a third world country.

[ToraToraTora]

Not me guv!

[anotheoldgit]

Seems strange that some are quite willing to use the words 'moderate' or 'extremist' where Muslims are concerned, yet these two words are never mentioned when discussing UKIP, because unlike Islam they are always condemned as a whole body, for the failings of a few.

[vulcan42]

\\Militant Islam is not a present mortal danger to the people of the world.//
Neither was Hitler in the thirties.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// Militant Islam is not a present mortal danger to the people of the world. It is not a danger to me. ///

You really believe that do you?

Try telling that to the families of the school girls in Nigeria, or the relatives of those who died in the Twin Towers, or the terrorist bombing attacks in London, and what about the Turkistan Islamic Party, which seeks the independence of Xinjiang from China. etc, etc.

Further proof of Islamic terrorist attacks can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamic_terrorist_attacks

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// It is usually you right whingers who tell us we are now a third world
country. ///

Why do you think they are called the "Right" wing?

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// The problems in Nigeria seem to have escalated since the US designated them as al Queda associates six months ago. ///

Seems strange how you always blame either the West, the Americans or the British for all the World's ills, especially when Islam is coming under attack, not become a convert have you?