Gerry Conlon Dies !

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-27955555

I post this only to commemorate an innocent chap treated appallingly.

RIP Gerry.

[VHG]

How "innocent" were they?

In Scotland there is a "Not Proven".

Were they totally innocent or could it just not be proved?

I really don't know, which is why I am asking.

[mikey4444]

VHG...they were entirely innocent . ....no doubt about it whatsoever. Not even a little bit. They were framed by the Plods and then convicted by a corrupt legal system. Ditto the Maguire Seven and the Birmingham Six.

See this Wiki entry for a full explanation... ::::

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guildford_Four_and_Maguire_Seven

Just in case there is still some doubt, here is the Daily Mail entry for today ::

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2664397/Guildford-Four-miscarriage-justice-victim-Gerry-Conlon-dies-home-following-long-illness.html

And this from the Daily Torygraph ::

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7795117/The-Guildford-Four-in-the-name-of-justice.html

[ichkeria]

Hmm, I know one or two people who think they did actually do it, On the other hand that doesn't excuse the way they were treated

[jno]

that seems ever so slightly anecdotal, ichkeria!

[Svejk]

again anecdotal, but isn't it common knowledge the Birmingham 6 were guilty.

[ummmm]

RIP.

I believe they were entirely innocent.

[mikey4444]

This man was entirely innocent, along with all the rest mentioned above.
They were subject to the worst miscarriage of justice ever seen in Britain.
No "barrack room lawyers" or daft anecdotal nonsense is going to change that.

[ummmm]

A good read Mikey 'The Stolen Years, Paul Hill'

[NoMercy]

Poor chap.

RIP x

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// I believe they were entirely innocent. ///

What proof of that do you have?

How can anyone say they were entirely innocent, unless it could be proven without a shadow of doubt that they were not anywhere near that pub in Guildford?

[ummmm]

Do your own homework!

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// No "barrack room lawyers" or daft anecdotal nonsense is going to change that. ///

Are you not also being a 'barrack room lawyer'?

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// Do your own homework! ///

Have you access to all the evidence and legal documents?

[NoMercy]

Are you just spoiling for a fight, AOG?

Even the Police admitted they got it wrong...

[ummmm]

Exactly that, NoM.

[mikey4444]

AOG.....There is no evidence that any of these people were IRA terrorists, none whatsoever. There is a wealth of reading material on the 'net but I can't be asked to look it up for you. But I urge you to, and you will be better informed on this subject.

As you are just spoiling for a fight, I won't be wasting anymore time debating this subject with you, on such a lovely Sunday morning.

[Sqad]

Morning mikey.

This is certainly not a criticism, but just an observation, in that have you ever given BEST ANSWER to a poster of Political right wing persuasion OR someone who disagrees with your views.

I am not picking on you as such, but is just an observation that applies to many ABers.

[DrFilth]

rip gerry

[Svejk]

you shouldn't be making such bold statements, mikey, unless you're prepared to defend them when challenged.