Fao Of Farrier.....

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.express.co.uk/comment/columnists/frederick-forsyth/393033/The-real-reason-the-hard-Left-will-never-forgive-Mrs-Thatcher
Read this a try and digest then address all the points and tell me why he's wrong.

[Peter Pedant]

OK points against

Of the three admins the first was most successful because she was forced to carry over Ted heath's stable of intellects, by admin three, she was appointing handsome yes-men - and it showed !

Poll tax

anti gay

and finally has one disastrous blind-spot by the name of one Mark Thatcher

[Zacs-Master]

Excellent article.

[askyourgran]

That is a good link.

[mikey4444]

I have read it TTT and nowhere does it tell of the misery of millions of people being thrown out of work when whole industries were closed down, and the devastated communities left behind. We still need coal but we prefer to get it from Western Australia rather than from under our own soil...a completely daft situation for an island race to find itself in. My avatar, for whom I seem to recall you had respect for, described Britain as "an island made of coal surrounded by fish"

Highly selective post if I may say so. There is always two sides to every story.

But lets not forget that Frederick Forsyth made his millions out of writing fiction, and liked Britain so much that he retired to Ireland, so as to pay less taxes !

Forsyth is a Eurosceptic Conservative. He is Patron of Better Off Out, an organisation calling for Britain's withdrawal from the European Union. In 2003, he was awarded the One of Us Award from the Conservative Way Forward group for his services to the Conservative movement in Britain. He is also a patron of the Young Britons' Foundation. In 2005, he came out in opposition to Kenneth Clarke's candidacy for the leadership of the Conservative Party, calling Clarke's record in government "unrivalled; a record of failure which at every level has never been matched". Instead, he endorsed and donated money to David Davis's campaign.

So, hardly a disinterested, unbiased and neutral observer then.

[ToraToraTora]

anti gay?? on what planet?
who hasn't got kids that are a pain?

this sentence says it for me:
"They lost every time a working man, under her legislation, voted in secret not to strike" - up to then they'd been bullied into strikes by shows of hands

do even the thatcher haters on here not acknowldge that we where sliding into a marxist outpost..seriously?

[ToraToraTora]

mikey, it was bad but the patient was very sick the medicine was harsh, there was no alternative. Please do me the service and tell me what you think would have hapenned if Mrs T had not come along and sorted it?

[mikey4444]

Jim Callaghan ....a Marxist ? Flipping heck...I have heard everything now !

[mikey4444]

TTT...I will be probably not tonight though. I will say however, that with the benefit of hindsight, Callaghan's Government deserved to lose the 1979 election, or at the very least, didn't deserve to win.

[ToraToraTora]

as you well know I'm not talking about Callaghan, I'm takking about the hard line union leaders, councils , militant tendencies. The infiltration of hard left ideology from top to bottom. They would have driven out any sensible employers and businesses, fewer to tax means more tax. Ok over to you, it's 1979, we are the sick man of Europe, basic rate income tax is 33%. The public sector is full of hard line militants, there are record levels of strikes, rubbish fills the parks, the dead go un buried, steel/coal/ships/docks all want 15% rise. You have won the election.......of you go, how do you turn it round?

[inksplotter]

I would suggest a back to basics scheme and join the EU, cut out the middle women?

[mikey4444]

Not by throwing millions of people out of work TTT, which is what happened,
which you cannot deny.

[Zacs-Master]

Coal was power. The unions had that power and were blackmailing the country. Mrs T changed all that. The mining communities and their self centred leader(s) brought it upon themselves.

[ToraToraTora]

i'm not denying it. They where not real jobs, union law had made it almost impossible to fire anyone. Law changes made the trimming down possible. Are you saying that jobs should never be shed even when there is no work? Now what are you going to do about all the problems above?

[royfromaus]

anti gay?? on what planet?



You're not the maggie expert you profess to be then?

[ToraToraTora]

I suppose you must be referring to the teachers mis using clause 28.

[royfromaus]

No


Do you actually read the threads you get involved in?

[ToraToraTora]

so what are you talking about then?

[naomi24]

Mikey, //We still need coal but we prefer to get it from Western Australia rather than from under our own soil...//


Read some history that for raging Labour supporters ought to come with a health warning.


http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1497/thatcher_s_achievements_will_long_outlive_the_spite_of_sheffield_s_sons_and_daughters

[youngmafbog]

Millions out of work? How many millions is that and how many of thise would have thrown millions of others out of work by their miliyant tendancies?

[sp1814]

TTT

Margaret Thatcher on gay rights.

Check the YouTube link.
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