Should This Ebola Patient Be Treated In London?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ebola-outbreak-british-patient-with-deadly-disease-could-be-treated-in-uk-hospital-9687682.html

[Amphilogiai]

You really should be more careful aog

[anotheoldgit]

THECORBYLOON

See my 09.36 post.

[THECORBYLOON]

I said "in the OP", the original post. If you were concerned about foreign folk being flown here for treatment why was that not the original question? Why should a British person not be treated here if it increases the chance of surviving?

[sp1814]

In answer to your question as to whether this British patient should be treated in the UK, yes.

I find your subsequent question posted at 9:36 quite strange, seeing as other pandemics have not resulted in non-UK nationals being treated here.

It's a really strange question.

Surely you remember SARS and avian flu, and then there was swine flu...

Which of these pandemics resulted in patients being flown (at great cost to the foreign governments) to the UK for treatment?

I understand the thought process behind the original question, and it had debatable merit. But your follow up (where you use a debating tactic of swerving your first question, to come up with another) doesn't really make sense when you look at the most recent pandemics, coupled with government reaction.

Bizarre.

[sp1814]

Yes THECORBYLOON...I am hoping AOG returns to his original question, rather than this odd little detour.

[anotheoldgit]

THECORBYLOON

/// I said "in the OP", the original post. If you were concerned about foreign folk being flown here for treatment why was that not the original question? ///

It's called a 'leading question' one has to start of with a subject matter.

[sp1814]

AOG

Do you not think this British patient should be treated in the UK?

[sp1814]

And which global pandemics (although in truth, Ebola isn't a pandemic, it's an epidemic) have resulted in foreign nationals being flown en masse to other countries for treatment.

Please name the one which has lead to your concern about Ebola.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Which of these pandemics resulted in patients being flown (at great cost to the foreign governments) to the UK for treatment? ///

"At great cost to the foreign governments"

You are having a larf aren't you?

Why did you also fail to mention the expectant mothers who come to the UK to have their babies delivered free of charge, or all the other health tourists we have become accustomed to reading about?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2470994/TRUE-cost-health-tourism-Foreigners-cost-NHS-2BN-year.html

[THECORBYLOON]

To get back to your original question ANOTHEOLDGIT, do you think a British person abroad should be flown home for treatment if they have ebola?

[Sqad]

sp1814.

There was no need to transfer other viral outbreaks to the UK as:

With SARS, Avian Flu etc........the mortality rate was less than 10%
With Ebola, the SURVIVAL rate is in that order.

AOG is worried that transferring an Ebola patient to the UK would be just the "tin end of the wedge."

As in my previous post, I have in mind that the patient we are talking about is a British doctor.....I could be wrong.

[sandyRoe]

I think the answer to that ^ might very well depend on their skin colour.

[sandyRoe]

That was addressed to The Corbyloon's comment.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Please name the one which has lead to your concern about Ebola. ///

One doesn't need a certain thing to happen before entering it as a subject for debate.

How many questions open for debate start off with either of these two words:

"COULD" or "SHOULD"

[sp1814]

AOG

The reason I don't mention them is because I'm not trying to divert the discussion.

You asked about Ebola patients being flown to Britain. Ebola is a health epidemic. In order to treat them in the UK a whole set of protocols would need to be established (deferred transport costs, hospital admission, palative care etc).

Why are you dodging the question?

Which global pandemic resulted in this happening?

If you are unable or unwilling to say, just let me know and I will drop it.

The reason I compared Ebola to SARS, swine flu and bird flu is because they were all recent pandemics and like Ebola, they have similar profiles.

So once again - which of these resulted in mass evacuations to the UK for treatment?

Or was there another you were thinking of?

Any disease...just one will do.

[sp1814]

AOG

You were writing your post as I was writing mine.

So...you're worried about something that has absolutely no precedent right?

I would suggest that you put that worry aside.

I have never been trampled to death by an escaped herd of wildebeest on Oxford Street. It's not likely to happen, and therefore, I will not waste my time considering the possibility.

I respectfully suggest that your worries may be unfounded on this subject.

As you kno

[naomi24]

My travel insurance is always in force, and I like to think that should I ever succumb to a life-threatening illness in a third world country, I’d be flown home for treatment. I can’t imagine that anyone would think differently, unless of course they were so overwhelmingly altruistic that they insisted upon staying for the greater good of their fellow man. Would you do that, AOG?

[anotheoldgit]

sandyRoe

/// I think the answer to that ^ might very well depend on their skin colour. ///

/// In the olden days the time it took to complete a journey acted as a sort of quarantine. An Ebola carrier setting sail from some port on the west African coast would be dead and buried at sea long before the boat docked in the UK. ///

Better dead and buried at sea, than here in the UK eh?

It would seem that it is you who seems to have a problem with skin colour, why is that?

[2sp_]

AOG "How long will it be before we are treating those from other countries, because they haven't the resources to deal with the problem?"

So you don't want to treat any foreigners here, but you expect a foreign country to treat a British citizen.

Double standards?

[THECORBYLOON]

SANDY, I am wondering whether he will answer his own question or no...