Are Lesbians More Acceptable Than Gay Men?

[anotheoldgit]

This person seems to think so, do you?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/tatu-lesbian-makes-homophobic-slur-all-the-things-she-said-singer-says-she-would-not-accept-her-son-if-he-was-gay-9743697.html

/// "Yes, I would condemn him, because I believe that a real man must be a real man," she said. "God created man for procreation, it is the nature. The man for me is the support, the strength of... I won't accept a gay son." ///

/// She was quick to add that her views aren’t at odds with her previous work; lesbians are a more acceptable form of sexuality than gay men, she claims, because women are "aesthetically nicer". ///

[atalanta]

Think about it this way - when blokes fancy blokes, it's a form of birth control provided by nature. If all those gay blokes weren't gay, but got married to women and produced children, just imagine what the world's population would be now !!!

[mikey4444]

More acceptable ? Lesbians are not more or less anything. But if anybody makes a nasty slur like this, they deserve to be castigated whatever their sexual orientation.

[-Talbot-]

I'm not at all obssesed YMB but I fail to see any news element in the thread.


Maybe if Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor had made comments of this nature it would be news.

[sp1814]

I think it's more likely that generally speaking the public is more comfortable with 'lesbian' imagery because we are accustomed to it through advertising.

Lesbianism sells. There has never in the history of pop music, any male act that has pretended to be gay to sell more records (as Tatu did - albeit very briefly).

So in answer to the question, I suspect it's not lesbians themselves who are more acceptable, but rather the image if lesbian sex.

To put it bluntly, people think of lesbians as two women gently enjoying each other's bodies. When people think of two gay men, they immediately think of anal sex, and it makes them shudder.

But I think it's the sex, rather than the people themselves, which defines the 'acceptabliity'.

[sp1814]

Yulia Volkov states in the interview, "I have many gay friends. I believe that being gay is all still better than murderers, thieves or drug addicts. If you choose out of all this, being gay a little better than the rest."

How nice of her to say that. (Rolls eyes).

[Sqad]

sp.......good answer.

\\\To put it bluntly, people think of lesbians as two women gently enjoying each other's bodies. When people think of two gay men, they immediately think of anal sex, and it makes them shudder. \\

That is not putting it "bluntly"....that is putting it how it IS.

[237SJ]

I agree with SP.

[jackthehat]

It's been said before.....if the thoughts about what you think gay men do disgust you, stop thinking about it!

[janbee]

Not much of a mother !

[anotheoldgit]

Queen Victoria refused to accept that Lesbians existed.

I think that lesbianism is more accepted just because it is more accepted to see two women waking arm in arm, two women dancing together or two women kissing affectionately.

[Retrochic]

Consenting adults should not be defined or judged on who they decide to have sex with. One of my sons is gay, I do not look at him and visualize him having sex with his partner, no more than I look at my daughter and visualize her having sex with her husband. It doesn't bother me either that he will never have children as I know plenty of heterosexual couples who make the decision not to have children. This women has something fundamentally wrong with her to be able to say she would not accept her son because of his sexual orientation. Vile woman.

[boxtops]

I really don't understand (but then I'm not a bloke) why some men find the prospect of two women together "exciting". That's just as unnatural to straight people as is the prospect of two men together. Is is because the blokes want to dive in there and get a bit of female action?

I find the prospect of threesomes very male-oriented too. Sex isn't supposed to be communal (unless you're in a Roman orgy).

Anyway, to go back to the OP - no, they're both equally acceptable, IMO. Some of my best friends (and a family member) are gays of both sexes. No problem, it's their choice, and they are very good company!

[RATTER15]

I would rather be a lesbian than a gay man! I could never kiss another man, yuk!
I have no problem with others doing whatever comes natural to them.

[Retrochic]

So,if you are a woman who feels in her mind she's a man and feels drawn to women but then has sex with a man, is she a homosexual?

[boxtops]

No, that's bisexual.

[Retrochic]

RATTER that's silly because you are looking at a man as a straight man therefore to kiss one,for you,is a horrid prospect. My word,looking at some of the absolutely gorgeous gay men I wouldn't mind being a gay man , if I was a man, yum!

[Ann]

I agree with most of Sqad's post at 12.30pm. I'm just glad I don't have children as it must be awful for a mother to have to decide between love for her son and her own convictions/opinions. I do feel that my love would win though, but it must be so sad in some families for them to accept it.

[boxtops]

My family member whose child came out many years ago was devastated at the news at the time - I guess it broke the anticipated mould of grandchildren etc in those days. However - they have an excellent close warm relationship now, and why shouldn't they? They are still mother and child, and the mother has got on extremely well with the child's partners over the years.

[Retrochic]

Ann you have hit the nail on the head, you don't have children so will never know about unconditional love.