Should Lgbt Issues Be Introduced In Lessons From As Early As Reception Classes?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2813481/2million-drive-teachers-say-gay-class-fight-homophobic-bullying-schools.html

/// Schools can make a ‘positive impact’ by incorporating lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people into the curriculum from reception class up. ///

[andy-hughes]

divebuddy - "Children start being unpleasant with each other at a very early age. It's one of life's little trials. It's called "human nature". It's always been the same and will probably never change."

It can be changed.

But it involves putting massive financial resources into nursery education, which is never going to happen because nursery education is not 'sexy' in the way that further education is, and there are no instant results.

Those two factors mean that no government is ever going to entertain that concept as a way forward for society.

[B00]

"I would like to see an education system where tolerance and respect are actually a major part of the traditional school programme, not just a trendy add-on for vote-seeking politiians. "

I genuinely hope it doesn't happen in my child's (school) lifetime.

And before anyone states that I myself must be a bigotted parent, i sincerely hope I'm not. My daughter, at 9, knows right from wrong and does seem to have a healthy respect and (age appropriate) knowledge that not everyone follows the traditional man/woman ratio.

[andy-hughes]

gness - "My children learned from the examples set at home and the discussions I had with them.

But if TTT and Sqad are anything to go by then it needs to be taught at school because their education was seriously lacking resulting in the warped views they post on here.....
And probably the earlier the better."

Education is vitally important, and cannot be left soley to parents - for the reasons gness has outlined.

When you consider that - aside from the finer points of social interaction - some children are arriving at school still not potty trained, and having never eaten a meal with a knife and fork and sitting at a table, then nursery and primary education becomes ever more vital as parenting skills decline with each generation.

[Baldric]

///But if TTT and Sqad are anything to go/// May be age related, I'm 63, left school in '66. I don't honestly remember LGBT issues being mentioned at School at all, in fact I believe Homesexuality was still illegal then.

[ToraToraTora]

infants are starting out on their education, their time should not be wasted on irrelevant subject matter. There are kids leaving school who can't write their own name F_F_S, surely proper education is the priority. In my day you got a couple of lessons and short film at the age of about 14, why must we sexualise children to keep the "right on" brigade happy? Last think we need is a load of 7 year olds that know the karma bleedin sutra but don't know what 5x6 is!

[gness]

Baldric...I was referring to the education they received at home.....which is where my children learned respect for themselves and others from an early age...

I should have made that clear....sorry....x

[andy-hughes]

BOO - ""I would like to see an education system where tolerance and respect are actually a major part of the traditional school programme, not just a trendy add-on for vote-seeking politiians. "

I genuinely hope it doesn't happen in my child's (school) lifetime."

Honestly?

I am not talking about the LGBT aspect of tolerence - just tolerence in general will do for me.

[gness]

You really are missing the point, TTT....because you want to I suspect.

[B00]

Yes honestly andy, i agree with 3T to a degree.

I wouldn't be impressed if tolerance and learning about different sexual practices and lifestyle choices were taught instead of maths, grammar and english.

As I've previously said, the above should be taught and followed by example from parents.

[pixie373]

It's never too early. It only has to be age-appropriate. As soon as my children assumed all couples were male/female (maybe preschool age), I told them that sometimes there are two men or two women instead, but that's less usual. It's natural to teach them that not all presumptions are right. I imagine the teachers will do the same. They aren't going to be educating them on gay/straight fetishes, which the best positions are and which clubs to go to are they? No big deal.

[Mamyalynne]

I don't think for one moment anyone is suggesting teaching infant classes about the mechanics of the sex act, gay or otherwise.


This is about respect and tolerance of everyone and the understanding that everyone is different yet deserves not to be bullied because of it.

[Baldric]

Gness, I was part of a single parent Family, I suspect my Mother would have been very uncomfortable talking about it.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// But I can't be bothered finding out because I will probably find it is the usual Mail claptrap. ///

Does this make it a little more palatable?

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/oct/29/nicky-morgan-fund-homophobic-bullying-schools

[gness]

But it won't be taught instead of, Boo......there are ways of including the subject........

[ToraToraTora]

I'm not missing the point gness. teach kids tolerance by all means but generally, why is it necessary to single out one section of the sexual spectrum? what about tolerance of race, short/tall, fat/thin, black/white, gawd there's loads of differences. At infant age it is not necessary to go into sexual orientation and activities at all, there is an element in society that wants to sexualise children, that is abhorrent to me, let them have a childhood. That's all I'm saying.

[gness]

But did she teach you respect for others, Baldric......not to be a nasty bully... not to pick on others because they may be different....to grow into a caring man?

It doesn't have to be a sit down talk on say...homosexuality.

[Mamyalynne]

This is not instead of....


//what about tolerance of race, short/tall, fat/thin, black/white//


Add to that list, those who have a different sexual orientation.

[pixie373]

That already happens TTT. They have Citizenship classes from Year 1. It would just be mentions in that I expect.

[B00]

I will back pedal slightly though that after thinking about it, perhaps teaching respect and tolerance for other lifestyle choices should be broached in primary school., maybe, just may be it will lessen the amount of knuckle draggers around.

However i would still be mightily peeved if I thought basic school lessons were dropped or shortened due to this.

I do still find it incredibly sad that children do not appear to have been shown by example by their parents prior to these 'lessons' though.