Britain First - Paul Golding

[agchristie]

Appears at court today but what of the charges he faces? The 'uniform' charge is bizarre to say the least. Short video in the link where Golding outlines the situation.

https://www.britainfirst.org/video-britain-first-leader-paul-golding-speaks-essex-court-today/

[agchristie]

Mikey, posts crossed, i thought you were referring to the BF being a drunken rabble, i accept you did not say that.

[mikey4444]

Gladly accepted agchristie, and no offence taken I can assure you...we can all make mistakes, even you and me !

My point was that the EDL are not a threat to us politically as they seem to play no part in our political life, being content with the kind of oafish behaviour that can be seen on the many youtube clips.

But BF is beginning to enter into politics, which is which is what I am concerned with. They will be defeated of course, but their very presence sends shivers down my back.

[agchristie]

Mikey, BF describe themselves as a 'patriotic political' party and a street defence organisation.

Agree about EDL.

[andy-hughes]

divebuddy - "The Golden Rule of outing people is that they should be dead. That way you can bravely out the likes of Cyril Smith and because he aint ever going to be charged (because he's dead remember) you won't fall foul of the legal system."

The Golden Rule of 'outing' people is - don't!

[Ellipsis]

Golding is charged with harassing a woman in her own home. The woman is not the male "terrorist" he was looking to "expose". If he did harass the woman then he deserves to be charged and found guilty.

As for the terrorist, if he is a terrorist, then he deserves to be charged and found guilty too - by the proper authorities, not the justice system according to Paul Golding ...

[Kromovaracun]

We do not know for sure that the person Goulding has exposed is a terrorist. We don't know that they were the "ringleader" of the 7/7 attacks. We have no idea who this person is.

The only person whose word we have on that is Paul Goulding's, and he is not a person I trust to be honest, fair, or accurate.

[Baldric]

A few people have said in this thread that he entered a woman's home and harassed her, which I would regard as serious, can't find reference to that anywhere, only

//Prosecutor James Burnham said Golding was present outside the home of Munazza Munawar in Hepburn Close, Chafford Hundred, Essex, on April 3 this year//

from Chris's link.

[sp1814]

Okay...now I'm lost.

Some clarification please.

What did Paul Golding do?

I was under the impression that he was trying to expose what he saw as an Islamic terrorist (as yet unproven), but now I'm reading he entered a woman's house and harassed her?

So I am assuming she is the wife, or some other relation to the man in question, right?

What was he doing in her house???

How was that supposed to expose the 'terrorist' (in quotes because I have *** all idea who the bloke is, much less the woman whose house was invaded).

This is more confusing than the second series of House of Cards (the plot of which I had to have explained to me...repeatedly)

[-Talbot-]

The Golden Rule of 'outing' people is - don't!


Yes, leave it to the police who have done a fine job of protecting children from celebrity paedophiles over the last 20/30 years.

I'm not saying Paul Golding was in order but quite frankly, andy I find your stance absolutely bizarre.

[Ellipsis]

Nobody has said any more than the article in Chris's link said, which was that he was charged with harassing a woman in her own home. It could be that she was in her home and he wasn't. All will no doubt be revealed ...

[sp1814]

Wasn't really swearing there...apparently AB doesn't like the word 'rugger' with a 'b' at the beginning.

[-Talbot-]

I'm lost too, sp. (trying to catch up)

[sp1814]

Ellipsis

Ah yes...he could have put a leaflet through her door. That way, he could be charged with harassing her in her own home, without actually being there.

Okay...I'm up to speed now.

[ladybirder]

What do you have to do to get chucked out of Pakistan?

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

I think the principle for outing is this:

Wrong:

To go onto a social networking site and claim that is a coke fiend and a child molester.

Right:

To go to the police claiming that you have evidence that is a coke fiend and a child molester.

[-Talbot-]

Right:

To go to the police claiming that you have evidence that is a coke fiend and a child molester.


Unfortunatly many people have been to the police with evidence/accusations and have been met with, ambivalence.

"ok thank you, now run along we will perhaps, maybe, possibly we will take what you have told us and erm....file it and lose it"

Do you think Simon Danczuk was wrong then, Sp?

[naomi24]

Andy-Hughes, spare me the bleeding hearts and spare me the lofty lectures. 7/7 was the worst day of my life bar none and if this man was involved – which I questioned on the first page here – then he’s the author of his own misfortune and if he reaps what he’s sown, so be it. I have no sympathy for him or his family whatsoever.

Mikey, I repeat, there are none more far right than radical Islamists, but it seems you prefer to ignore that.

[ChillDoubt]

Agchristie...Golding is a racist and is the head of a Fascist organisation. We ignore people like this at our peril. He is not concerned about right or wrong...he is just a rabble rouser, intent on causing unrest, just like his former mates in the BNP. mikey444
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Abhorrent though the BNP are, one thing I'll wager- he and his organisation won't be plotting to blow up a bus or tubetrain full of innocents any time in the forseeable future.
These are the two extremes of what faces us, hence he'd garner a little sympathy from some quarters.

[mikey4444]

Morning chilli. I have no sympathy whatsoever with Muslim extremists, in the same way I didn't feel any sympathy with the IRA. I have said that before on AB, many times, but it seems that I have to keep repeating it.

But I am very wary of BF. There are some that still think, despite all the evidence, that BF is some kind of cuddly cross between the Sally Army and the British Legion, but if they really do think that, they are very wrong.

BF, just like the National Front and the BNP before them, are just jumping on the Muslim bandwagon, in order to further their extreme right-wing views.
Being in favour of BF is a bit like being in favour of Mussolini because he made the trains run on time.