Grandma's Hug - Shocking Story

[Ann]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2893067/Treated-worse-dog-Grandmother-freed-three-days-jail-hug-reveals-bruised-police-officers-deprived-sleep-access-lawyer-not-allowed-liver-pills.html


Of course we don't know the whole story but it all seems rather harsh to me - I think Derbyshire Social Services have a lot to answer for in all this. She obviously loves her granddaughter.

[BlackadderV]

Google Hell's Grannies.

[gness]

And just who do you think would run a Home for Dangerous Grannies..... like me?.....☻

[pixie373]

I will :-)

[gness]

Brave woman!......As long as there's a bar...and wool......x

[pixie373]

Naturally....

[ladybirder]

Would that necessarily be a bad thing db?

[EDDIE51]

The woman has obviously broken the court order many times before this .
The judge was forced to impose a 3 month prison sentence for each break (according to the 2nd link posted) as she just ignored the many warnings.
That is why she was immediately jailed, the police had no other option than immediate custody. No need for access to a lawyer either as there was no argument possible about custody so that is another nail in the coffin for the Wail story.
She IS a criminal with multi arrests and jail terms she MUST have known that she would not be allowed to keep pills while in jail, as said, only medication prescribed by the police doctor is allowed. That just about blows the Wail's story out of the water completely.

[EDDIE51]

By the way the courts overwhelming principle is to do whatever is in '' The best interests of the child''
All else is secondary to that. So the court MUST hold the view that no physical contact with the child by the grandmother is in the child's best interests.
We can not know what the history is but possibly the the question of potential harm to the child is what is at the core of this story.

[hc4361]

It's a shame they can't put an injunction on her to stop her running to the press

[jno]

there's a bit of background here

http://suesspiciousminds.com/tag/kathleen-danby/

After meeting her grandmother, the young woman's behaviour deteriorated, she assaulted staff and self-harmed.

She does sound as if she needs protection.

[EDDIE51]

^^ yes she has obviously gone to the 'Wail' with the story to try to get sympathy. She is clever enough to know that the paper can not publish the reason why court of protection have ordered her to stay away from the child
'Court of protection' , the clue is in the name!

[elliemay1]

Apparently the girl's father has also been banned from having contact with her.

[Svejk]

Not much sympathy for this woman from our usually caring ABers. I know as much as the rest of you but isn't it just possible that this family are caught up in a Kafkaesque nightmare of 'secret' courts, possibly, being misused by an errant council. Wouldn't be the first Social Services Department and/or council to misuse legislation to cover for their own shortcomings.

[EDDIE51]

svejk read the link jno posted at 22.46.
Pretty 'heavy' I can't see a judge giving such an order without very good reason. I strongly suspect serious child abuse has occurred and this is to protect the child.

[Svejk]

I'd rather reserve judgement till when/if the whole story comes out.

[Retrochic]

I've read that link and it seems very sad. The grand-daughter, aged 17 who is described as having 'learning difficulties' seemed to be very pleased to see her grandmother, who had given her a DVD of her life growing up. Evidence suggests the girl was very happy to see her grandmother which does not to me indicate a fear or anxiety in meeting her. A very sad case

[EDDIE51]

Retro, read this link that was previously posted yesterday
http://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/dec/31/woman-jailed-hugging-granddaughter-court-freed-birmingham
It says if you read through, that the visit by the grandmother had a profound detrimental effect on the child who started self harming.

[DTCwordfan]

Bloody appalling and an awful piece of reporting - nothing unusual for the Daily Mail to get their journalistic knickers in a knot, never mind a twist.