Mixed Message

[vernonk]

pop star JAMELIA, on the Loose Women panel today, said "You're not supposed to say Mixed Race anymore -the correct term is Dual Heritage". We're you aware of this?

[-Talbot-]

Wouldn't they shout

Look out the .
Blackfoot
Pawnee
Cheyenne
Crow
Apache
Arapaho

are coming

[anotheoldgit]

What one must ask from all this you must not say this or you must not say that, or it will or may cause offence.

Why is that certain parts of our society are given the exclusive right to choose what does or may cause offence?

I am sure that I am not on my own in saying that many things cause me offence, but as a white male, there is no way that I could possibly get a ban put on them.

[jackthehat]

Could you give us some examples of these 'things' which as a white male cause you offence, AOG?

[anotheoldgit]

-Talbot-

Not always, perhaps they could only see the smoke signals?

[-Talbot-]

What causes you offence AOG?

[sp1814]

AOG

It depends on context - westerns have by and large fallen out of favour since their heyday of the 1930s - 1960s, but the few westerns that are made today still feature words that are appropriate to the time in which they are set (eg. Django Unchained / True Grit (the excellent Coen brothers remake)!vs. No Country For Old Men / The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada)

[-Talbot-]

Even then AOG, I think they would just shout 'indians'

[sunny-dave]

I was once called a "muthercuddlin' honky" (approximately) by a large black person - I think he was joking, since I had just bought him a pint, but I was a still bit disconcerted ...

I do wonder if my eyesight is what it might be though - I'd had quite a few pints with the fluffy one (spread over several meetings) before it even occurred to me that she was 'of mixed message' - and that was only because she mentioned her mum coming to the UK.

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

I think I already know the answer to that.

AOG finds the abbreviation for the word 'British' offensive.

I will leave him to explain why, but I think out of respect we should avoid using the word here on AB.

[New Judge]

No, not "cowpersons" aog. Surely "Cattlepersons" or "Bovine animalperson".

[-Talbot-]

-Talbot-

I think I already know the answer to that.


Well done you, sp. ....but my answer was to AOG,

[sp1814]

AOG

You asked:

"Why is that certain parts of our society are given the exclusive right to choose what does or may cause offence?"

I don't think that's quite true though, is it?

I distinctly recall you getting very offended when another AB contributor referred to you as Git (despite this being part of your username).

Furthermore, there are words that young gentlemen down the pub on a Friday night may call their mates which they would avoid in your presence as you are an older person.

There are words that I would say in front of my own mates that I would not say in front of my mother.

I would suggest that there are subsets of words that offend many different groups, and my guess is that you have a set (like the 'B' word) that offend you.

Is that incorrect?

[sp1814]

New Judge

You're almost right.

I've just looked it up in my 'Collins Dictionary of Correct PC Terms'.

It's Bovine Maintenance and Support Supervisor.

I don't know why you don't know that...

[anotheoldgit]

-Talbot-

/// Even then AOG, I think they would just shout 'indians' ///

Wouldn't that also be deemed offensive.

Can't understand this colour thingy, it would seem that it is perfectly correct to call a white person "White" and a black person "Black" (that is until such time they decide that is also offensive) but one is now no longer allowed to put "Red" before Indian.

[atalanta]

can I call myself "dual heritage", since my father was C of E and my mother was methodist ? Actually, if there was someone from Africa in my distant ancestry, can I call myself " of suntanned appearance " ?

[-Talbot-]

"Why is that certain parts of our society are given the exclusive right to choose what does or may cause offence?"

Everyone has a right to choose what offends them, I have the right to think they are being oversensitive or precious. This debate only really gets talked about on the WWW. anyway.......? (99%)?



In real life how often would you use any of this ?

"Where's black Audley, he was supossed to be here at 7"

"mixed race Tom says white Pete is picking him up"

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// AOG finds the abbreviation for the word 'British' offensive. ///

/// I will leave him to explain why, but I think out of respect we should avoid using the word here on AB. ///

Thank you for that SP but somehow I can't ever see your request put into practice.

Now for my explanation that you requested:

One is no longer able to abbreviate the word Pakistani, simply because those and others have decided that it is offensive.

Well as you know I am a staunch believer in a 'level playing field' so I have decided that being called a 'Brit' is offensive, since I am an Englishman, and while I am at it being called a 'little Englander' is also offensive to me.

[-Talbot-]

can I call myself "dual heritage", since my father was C of E and my mother was methodist ?


That's why this is silly, hence my marrying a posh t*** anaology earlier.

(better get rid of the Jamillia pics now, the wife is due in)

[anotheoldgit]

New Judge

/// No, not "cowpersons" aog. Surely "Cattlepersons" or "Bovine
animalperson". ///

Wow I can see what what you mean Judge, my apologies go out to all those thus offended.

[jackthehat]

Erm......is that it, AOG?

Being called a Brit or a Little Englander on a free and anonymous website is the extent of the ways in which you are offended?

I must admit, I find that revelation a little disappointing....