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sp1814
No the blacks have high-jacked a common enough word used by white folk over a number of years and they themselves have deemed it offensive and have therefore turned into a banned word.
If they wish to correct the white folk of their mistake, then they should set an example by also banning it themselves, and not use it as some sort of power over the whites.
This 'power hold' suggestion has also been admitted by a well known black comedian.
No the blacks have high-jacked a common enough word used by white folk over a number of years and they themselves have deemed it offensive and have therefore turned into a banned word.
If they wish to correct the white folk of their mistake, then they should set an example by also banning it themselves, and not use it as some sort of power over the whites.
This 'power hold' suggestion has also been admitted by a well known black comedian.
AOG
I think is unwise to think of black people as having a singular mindset.
It's a foolish proposition because it suggests that 'the blacks' have a singular point of view on this, which is untrue.
I think that what you mean is that some black people have no problem using the 'N' word colloquially, and many others do not and find it offensive.
...possibly because black people are individuals, not some heterogeneous mass?
I think is unwise to think of black people as having a singular mindset.
It's a foolish proposition because it suggests that 'the blacks' have a singular point of view on this, which is untrue.
I think that what you mean is that some black people have no problem using the 'N' word colloquially, and many others do not and find it offensive.
...possibly because black people are individuals, not some heterogeneous mass?
ludwig
/// Basically it's ok to look yourself in the mirror and say 'Blimey, I look like a fat wrinkly old git this morning'.
That would be ironic self deprecation. ///
/// It's not ok for someone you don't know to approach you and say 'Blimey, you look like a fat wrinkly old git this morning'.
That would just be verbal abuse. ///
You could say the same if a black person looked into a mirror and said "Blimey, I look like a 'Ni***r' er this morning".
Then I agree if someone they didn't know was to say the same to that person that would certainly be verbal abuse.
But if a group of white people were talking and one happened to say, " I have a Ni***r come to stay next door, that in itself would not be verbal abuse, even if it was overheard by a black person, unless of course that black person was the one that had come to stay next door.
/// Basically it's ok to look yourself in the mirror and say 'Blimey, I look like a fat wrinkly old git this morning'.
That would be ironic self deprecation. ///
/// It's not ok for someone you don't know to approach you and say 'Blimey, you look like a fat wrinkly old git this morning'.
That would just be verbal abuse. ///
You could say the same if a black person looked into a mirror and said "Blimey, I look like a 'Ni***r' er this morning".
Then I agree if someone they didn't know was to say the same to that person that would certainly be verbal abuse.
But if a group of white people were talking and one happened to say, " I have a Ni***r come to stay next door, that in itself would not be verbal abuse, even if it was overheard by a black person, unless of course that black person was the one that had come to stay next door.
AOG
No it does not release the word for general use.
Many people are not offended by swear words, but I am sure that if Fiona Bruce were to open News at Ten with the words, "Good evening c**ts" that would pretty much be the end of her career.
Do you not agree that there are words that some find offensive and others do not, black, white, Asian, young, old etc?
No it does not release the word for general use.
Many people are not offended by swear words, but I am sure that if Fiona Bruce were to open News at Ten with the words, "Good evening c**ts" that would pretty much be the end of her career.
Do you not agree that there are words that some find offensive and others do not, black, white, Asian, young, old etc?
sp1814
/// Do you not agree that there are words that some find offensive and others do not, black, white, Asian, young, old etc? ///
Of course there is, there must be hundreds if not thousands, but my argument is why are just a few put on the banned list, at the wishes of people from a minority group.
Where would it end if all words that are likely to cause offence were to be banned? It would certainly reduce the size of the English dictionary.
Let's ban the words 'Ginger' 'Fatty' 'Ugly' 'Shorty' 'lanky' 'Tart' 'hop-a-long' etc etc.
/// Do you not agree that there are words that some find offensive and others do not, black, white, Asian, young, old etc? ///
Of course there is, there must be hundreds if not thousands, but my argument is why are just a few put on the banned list, at the wishes of people from a minority group.
Where would it end if all words that are likely to cause offence were to be banned? It would certainly reduce the size of the English dictionary.
Let's ban the words 'Ginger' 'Fatty' 'Ugly' 'Shorty' 'lanky' 'Tart' 'hop-a-long' etc etc.
AOG
This statement doesn't work because you're resorting to reductio ad absurdum:
Where would it end if all words that are likely to cause offence were to be banned? It would certainly reduce the size of the English dictionary.
Let's ban the words 'Ginger' 'Fatty' 'Ugly' 'Shorty' 'lanky' 'Tart' 'hop-a-long' etc etc
First of all, good manners dictates the use of these words.
When you're being introduced to Anne Widdecombe, you would not refer to as 'Fatty'.
When you find out that the chap who works in the library is related to Douglas Bader, you would not refer to him as 'Hop Along'.
This statement doesn't work because you're resorting to reductio ad absurdum:
Where would it end if all words that are likely to cause offence were to be banned? It would certainly reduce the size of the English dictionary.
Let's ban the words 'Ginger' 'Fatty' 'Ugly' 'Shorty' 'lanky' 'Tart' 'hop-a-long' etc etc
First of all, good manners dictates the use of these words.
When you're being introduced to Anne Widdecombe, you would not refer to as 'Fatty'.
When you find out that the chap who works in the library is related to Douglas Bader, you would not refer to him as 'Hop Along'.
