Do You Agree With This Lady Or Not?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2951849/Malcolm-X-s-daughter-Ilyasah-Shabazz-calls-use-N-word-ridiculous-adds-rappers-say-everybody-able-use-it.html

[Peter Pedant]

AOG

we ve done this before - you know as well as I do there are taboo words - even on AB !

which change with time

and there is little point in saying " I dont think N should be taboo, but I think the word 'snit' should be "

[Brenden]

Heartily, a fine young woman with common sense.

[retrocop]

Why don't we just kick the N word into the long grass and then everyone is happy. It is out dated. Perhaps Mr Fry could come up with a more acceptable word if requested to find one.

[ToraToraTora]

we could use rhymming slang.

[retrocop]

TTT
"Wastin away in Margueritaville. Usin up my last jigger of salt"

[Old_Geezer]

No time to read the whole article but yes, what is "sauce for the goose" must be "sauce for the gander". One can to claim it is ok to refer to oneself by some noun and then deny everyone else. Either in a particular society it is officially agreed ok or it is officially agreed taboo, otherwise it is just hypocrisy. Anyway I thought the big issue was calling folk "coloured" these days.

[sp1814]

AOG

I've been thinking about this since the last time you raised this topic, and I think I can explain why it is deemed (by some) as an acceptable word for (some) black people to use, but not by non-blacks...

In my opinion, it's a reserved word along the same lines as a nickname you may have for a close friend or family member.

Let's say you have a brother who underwent an operation on his face which left him with a scar...amongst the family, he may have the nickname 'Scarface', which he accepts because it's family, and he knows that there is no malice in the sobriquet.

However, if your family went out to dinner one night and the waiter referred to your brother as 'Scarface', it would be completely inappropriate.

If you think of the 'N' word along those lines, it makes sense with regards to its status as a 'reserved word'.

[Brenden]

There are no reserved words sp, you are a nice young man who believes in equal rights so you cannot justify your post.

[Old_Geezer]

Hmm that seems to be moving from the specific to the general. One can understand what is in essence an insulting name being something tolerated by those close to you as a sign of affection; I'm unsure I'd agree it could be expended to a whole race telling the other races what is and is not acceptable. But I see where you are coming from.

[retrocop]

sp
Nah that wouldn't be acceptable reason either. Family goes out with scarface for a meal." You ready to order scareface,?"asks Dad.
"And what would scarface require to order?" says the waiter.
"Well you called him that first sir"!!!
Nah it's all or nothing.

[ludwig]

We've been through this 1000+ times before.

Basically it's ok to look yourself in the mirror and say 'Blimey, I look like a fat wrinkly old git this morning'.
That would be ironic self deprecation.

It's not ok for someone you don't know to approach you and say 'Blimey, you look like a fat wrinkly old git this morning'.
That would just be verbal abuse.

[retrocop]

sp
Do you not think that your solution/explanation could be a possible cause for further prejudice ? :-(

[sp1814]

Brenden

I'm only trying to posit an analogy too assist lateral thinking in this recurring thread.

I think it fits.

I'm not trying to say that I am right and you (or anyone else) is wrong. Just putting forward a point of view.

[brionon]

ludwig, Tell that to my wife !

[dave50]

Is the term '***' offensive?

[dave50]

I have just asked the question if the word that the 'N' word is short for, is also offensive. It obviously is because it was blanked out.

[retrocop]

dave
what word would *** be. Working On Government Service.?
An acronym for native workers in Egypt constructing the Suez canal I believe.

[-Talbot-]

The daughter of one of the most outspoken leaders of the civil rights movement believes the way rappers use the N-word in their music is 'ridiculous'.


Not to mention a bit passé

[RandyMarsh]

52 year old lady commenting on youth culture.