Racist Or Just Stating A Fact?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2952661/You-guys-used-slaves-Police-probe-video-racist-woman-having-argument-black-man-London-Underground.html

[ummmm]

Racist.

[jim360]

I never quite understand how the Daily Mail Hyperlinks work. Before I saw the proper headline it seemed as if the woman were saying "you guys used slaves" as in, you used to employ them also. This is, perhaps, also true to some extent, but is not what the woman was saying. I wish they'd stick to a boring number reference for each page.

And yes, racist. Totally irrelevant to a seat-moving argument, for example. Also, a cast-iron way to identify a (whatever)ist is whenever they say "Some of my friends are (whatever)"...

[-Talbot-]

Is this a very poor sequel to 12 Years a Slave?


'5 Minutes A Cretin'

[andy-hughes]

Racist.

The woman used the 'slave' reference in order to insult the gentleman who was arguing with her.

To say that he 'had a problem' because ' you people used to be slaves ...' is obviously a derogatory reference, inferring that his behaviour towards her is because he is black and she is white, rather than whatever the exchange was before the filming commenced.

The woman should also acquaint herself with the well-known phrase - when you are in a hole, stop digging!

Trying to explain that she is not a racist because she has black friends is priceless, she could have made friends by telling him he's got rhythm!!

[boxtops]

racist idiot.

[jno]

stating what fact, exactly?

Wouldn't you have more success by arguing that she was an illegal East European immigrant insulting a proud British citizen?

[ummmm]

Well it's not a fact that all black people were slaves.

It was just a horrible thing to say. I wonder what her black friends will think of her now.

[anneasquith]

racist.

[Svejk]

Foreign woman driven off train by angry mob.

[trt]

How did the argument start, never heard the beginning.

For all we know, he might have called her a white ***?

[anotheoldgit]

Andy-Hughes

/// To say that he 'had a problem' because ' you people used to be slaves ///

That is not quite what was said.

This is what was reported as having been said.

*** 'you have a problem because you guys used to be slaves'. ***

/// inferring that his behaviour towards her is because he is black and she is white, ///

That is completely your inference, colour was never mentioned.

No difference to two white people quarrelling and one saying to the other "you have a problem because you guys are unintelligent idiots".

Now that surely is more insulting than stating the fact that "you guys used to be slaves" but even so, it would have been more correct to say "Some of you guys".

[Zacs-Master]

"Colour was never mentioned"

Except in the headline which your post is all about.

???

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEROLDGIT if the man's colour was not an issue for the woman, on what was her claim, 'you have a problem because you guys used to be slaves' based? If it was not about his colour, why did you ask if was racist or no?

[anotheoldgit]

THECORBYLOON

/// ANOTHEROLDGIT if the man's colour was not an issue for the woman, on what was her claim, 'you have a problem because you guys used to be slaves' based? If it was not about his colour, why did you ask if was racist or no? ///

I did not ask if it was "racist or not" but what I did ask was "Racist or just stating a fact".

[anneasquith]

still racist !

[THECORBYLOON]

Other than the man's colour, why did the woman speak about slaves?

[Zacs-Master]

if your conclusion is that it is just stating a fact then it isn't racist so, by default, you have asked 'racist or not'. Why do you try to dodge the questions you have asked?

[jd_1984]

Definitely ignorant

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

/// you have asked 'racist or not'. Why do you try to dodge the questions you have asked? ///

You still haven't got it have you?

I put 'RACIST OR JUST STATING A FACT'? not a mention of 'NOT'

I put it up for discussion, for other ABers to come to a conclusion.

[jno]

"you guys"

What guys was she talking about, I wonder?