Capital Punishment

[Canary42]

I'm against Capital Punishment in principle, but sometimes .........

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2970362/Ex-policeman-lover-plotted-conceive-baby-abuse-share-paedophiles.html

..... it might be for the best.

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEOLDGIT, do have any evidence that capital punishment does act as a deterrent? If it is a deterrent, should the death penalty be introduced for all crimes or would that be a daft suggestion?

[mushroom25]

there have always been the cold calculating types who plan the demise of their victim, but in general murders are committed in the heat of the moment, quite often to silence the victim, without any thought as to the consequences. for such perpetrators, the death penalty would never be a deterrent.

[Jackdaw33]

//and we haven't hanged people for non-capital crimes since 1861//

No-one has ever been hanged for a non-capital crime by definition.

[mikey4444]

There is nothing whatsoever daft about my comment regarding capital punishment.

I repeat....I have never any evidence that the death penalty acts as a deterrent. If you have evidence to the contrary, then produce it and we can further the debate.

[mikey4444]

Mush...the voice of common sense at 13:49 !

[retrocop]

http://www.murderuk.com/misc_crime_stats.html

I think there has been a rise since 1965 in the UK murder rate. It would seem this statistic does not include IRA terrorist murders as it is called an act of terrorism. Same result. The victim ends up dead and the perpetrator doesn't.

[andres]

Well ,I hope that if ever Jhaddi John is captured that he is put in front of a firing squad or hung from the gallows. Then his body incinerated. I don't want people like him to live out their days in the relative comfort of a prison cell to be fed and watered for the rest of his life.

[retrocop]

Gromit @ 1154

Apart from your usual anti British, anti police stance all you have proved is that some police officers are the same as some other people who have perverted tendencies and betray the trust expected of them.
Those numbers are no different to teachers,catholic priests,pop stars,politicians, so caaled media celebrities. I know what your agenda is by quoting these figures but ask yourself who brought these people to justice. It wasn't Postman Pat !!.

[SeaJayPea]

retrocop's stats make for interesting reading. Especially the part at the top which states:

"In 2002, 16,110 people were murdered in the USA."

Now, the USA has a population of 320 million - that's a rate of more or less exactly 50 killed per million - this in a country that retains and uses the death penalty. According to the list, in 2002/3, we had a total of 853 killed, with a population of 60 million. That's a rate of slightly over 14 per million. (And 172 of that 853 were all Shipman's) I know where I'd rather be.

Also, in a country whose population has been rising consistently for years, our murder rate is dropping. With a few blips, it's been falling every year since 2002.

[agchristie]

I often hear that people are opposed to capital punishment, except in certain instances.

NJ has it right, you are either opposed or not.

[jourdain2]

Given the current circumstances I think it is a pity that capital punishment for treason was abolished. Treason is a planned act.

[Jackdaw33]

According to the Treason Act (as amended) it is high treason to have carnal knowledge of the wife of the heir to the throne. One or two might be quaking in their boots.

[New Judge]

What about the heir to the throne having carnal knowledge of somebody else's wife? :-)

[sandyRoe]

Isn't that covered by Droit de Signeur?

[sandyRoe]

* seigneur

[keyplus90]

Many are against CP until crime (act) involves their own loved ones as victim.

[retrocop]

Quite so.

[Peter Pedant]

CJP

the Lesley Moleseed case is a terrible tragedy for everyone
The defence were at fault for not chasing the path report
The Home secretary I think it comes out in wiki who was the defence leader realised what a cack-up it was when the path results were shown him

God in one of the case where the prosecution witnesses happily perjured themselves the trial judge was later invited to apologise and refused - nothing to do with him but he did regret the result
I mean honestly

[Peter Pedant]

Jackdaw it was from a law lecture....
if you google capital crime definition
then yo get

Capital Offence Legal Definition: A criminal offence for which the punishment, or one of the punishments, is death,