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Are The Welsh Foreign ?
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Sqad
The NHS in Wales always had local administration. It is not the administration that has changed it is the spending of the Budget. A dollop of money that was previously allocated by the Department of Health in London is now allocated by someone in the Welsh Government in Cardiff. Exact same NHS. Still funded by the same UK taxpayers.
The NHS in Wales always had local administration. It is not the administration that has changed it is the spending of the Budget. A dollop of money that was previously allocated by the Department of Health in London is now allocated by someone in the Welsh Government in Cardiff. Exact same NHS. Still funded by the same UK taxpayers.
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“Hinchingbrooke is an NHS hospital but managed privately and was correct to charge the patient. The bill handed to him seems reasonable to me and he should have been made to pay it and retrieve the money from his own Health Authority.”
Have to disagree, sqad. Hitchinbrooke hospital provides services under the NHS and Mr White checked in as an NHS patient. No charges should have been raised and if different parts of the NHS want to fart about sending bills to each other it is no wonder they are allegedly struggling to provide the services which patients require and expect.
The NHS (that is the United Kingdom’s NHS) has got itself into an awful mess because of the ridiculous arrangements brought about by devolution. It is intriguing that this particular hospital could manage to raise a bill for a UK citizen whereas a few months ago health chiefs raised their hands in horror when it was suggested that they might be more robust when checking a patient’s eligibility for free care in an effort to curb health tourism. It needs to be emphasised to all managers that they are to provide the same services for all UK patients regardless of their area of origin. The devolution of budgets do not come with an accompanying authority to deny service for non Scottish or Welsh patients.
“English students have to pay to got to Scottish Universities whereas other EU and foreign students don't.
This is going to be challenged in the courts apparently. “
This issue is quite straightforward. Universities can charge different fees (i.e. discriminate in favour or against) students from different parts of the same country but cannot do so for students from other EU nations. The UK is a single nation state. As far as EU law is concerned there is no more difference between England and Scotland than there is between Cornwall and Manchester. Both are constituent areas of the UK.
Interestingly among the many “cake and eat it” arguments put forward by the SNP in the run up to the referendum on independence was that Scotland would continue with this practice. They were advised that it would be incompatible with EU law but insisted that it would be necessary to prevent students from the rest of the UK depriving Scottish students of places. Of course they had no such qualms about students from the rest of the EU doing so.
Both these issues have arisen because of the ludicrous devolution arrangements put in place by the Labour government which have been perpetuated and enhanced by the Coalition. In a clear demonstration of the “West Lothian Question” the issue of university fees in England has twice been voted on by Scottish MPs whose constituents would not be effected by the measures. The health service is slipping down the same road and unless clear rules are laid down for hospital administrators patients travelling about the country will encounter increasing difficulty when they require treatment.
Have to disagree, sqad. Hitchinbrooke hospital provides services under the NHS and Mr White checked in as an NHS patient. No charges should have been raised and if different parts of the NHS want to fart about sending bills to each other it is no wonder they are allegedly struggling to provide the services which patients require and expect.
The NHS (that is the United Kingdom’s NHS) has got itself into an awful mess because of the ridiculous arrangements brought about by devolution. It is intriguing that this particular hospital could manage to raise a bill for a UK citizen whereas a few months ago health chiefs raised their hands in horror when it was suggested that they might be more robust when checking a patient’s eligibility for free care in an effort to curb health tourism. It needs to be emphasised to all managers that they are to provide the same services for all UK patients regardless of their area of origin. The devolution of budgets do not come with an accompanying authority to deny service for non Scottish or Welsh patients.
“English students have to pay to got to Scottish Universities whereas other EU and foreign students don't.
This is going to be challenged in the courts apparently. “
This issue is quite straightforward. Universities can charge different fees (i.e. discriminate in favour or against) students from different parts of the same country but cannot do so for students from other EU nations. The UK is a single nation state. As far as EU law is concerned there is no more difference between England and Scotland than there is between Cornwall and Manchester. Both are constituent areas of the UK.
Interestingly among the many “cake and eat it” arguments put forward by the SNP in the run up to the referendum on independence was that Scotland would continue with this practice. They were advised that it would be incompatible with EU law but insisted that it would be necessary to prevent students from the rest of the UK depriving Scottish students of places. Of course they had no such qualms about students from the rest of the EU doing so.
Both these issues have arisen because of the ludicrous devolution arrangements put in place by the Labour government which have been perpetuated and enhanced by the Coalition. In a clear demonstration of the “West Lothian Question” the issue of university fees in England has twice been voted on by Scottish MPs whose constituents would not be effected by the measures. The health service is slipping down the same road and unless clear rules are laid down for hospital administrators patients travelling about the country will encounter increasing difficulty when they require treatment.
