Ipcc Said Firearms Officer Was Justified In Shooting Mark Duggan.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3010170/Mark-Duggan-death-sparked-London-riots-holding-gun-officer-killed-him.html

At last after a three-and-a-half year investigation a justified result, yet even after this there were still some on a LBC phone not only claiming that it was a police conspiracy but also calling the radio presenter a racist for daring to agree with the verdict.

Can we now expect yet another riot now that things have not gone the way that some expected?

[retrocop]

Ratter
That is correct.A double tap to the larger body mass area is the training given.No shooting to wound.Not enough time and skill to pick and choose target area.

[Ric.ror]

As far as I'm aware there have been no re-writes of 'Gone With the Wind'

[Peter Pedant]

erm a hard surface like ... grass ?

[RATTER15]

Thanks Retro, I thought so, and it sounds right to me, I'm not sure I would be happy with just the two shots though, if I was in that position, he would be carrying the lead from a few more rounds I'm sure, I don't like taking chances!

[Peter Pedant]

// As far as I'm aware there have been no re-writes of 'Gone With the Wind'// yeah but its got a black character in it ( Mamie )
but I dont think she gets shot in the end nor is she found with a grenade in her mouth afterwrds....

[Baldric]

\\\and he had 2 holes in his chest?\\\

///One bullet hit the gangster in his right bicep and the other hit him in the chest.///

I can only assume you have a problem with the Police doing their job.

[Peter Pedant]

// he would be carrying the lead from a few more rounds I'm sure,//

yeah like 19 in the Gibraltar shooting....

nice thing about this thread is that if you can think of it: then its has been done somewhere

[RATTER15]

PP, I have no idea what surface he was on, but yes a gun thrown, could bounce or slide on short grass. Either way, from what I read he should clearly have been shot dead!

[RATTER15]

PP, like it or not, if I need to shoot someone to protect myself or my loved ones, if need be I would put 100 rounds in him!! and still sleep at night!

[Peter Pedant]

No or Yes

I understand the self defence bit about shooting someone pre-emptively

I just wonder about shooting people carrying a chair leg or because they are in a yellow mini ( S Waldorf). where they are patted on the head, and told:
" there there you can do it again if you want"

[Ric.ror]

I wonder what his intent was in carrying a gun in the first place

[RATTER15]

PP, I am not saying all shootings are right, I dont know the full circumstances of the guy with the chair leg wrapped in a bag, the police were told it was an Irishman with a gun. If I approached that guy after being told it was a gun, maybe the guy said it was a gun, I dont know, maybe he waved it in a manner suggesting it could have been a gun, what do you do? again it may be a split second decision, him or me? I want to be the one walking away.

[ummmm]

To protect himself from other dealers!

[Booldawg]

Guess it wouldn't have gone the Police forces way if it was revealed he wasn't carrying a gun at all.

To answers AOGs question I doubt it will invoke another riot, but no doubt another enquiry instigated by the family who refuse to accept any opinion but their own.

[Baldric]

///erm a hard surface like ... grass ?///

PP, if you bothered to look at the Link there is a photo' of his body laying on a pavement, next to a road where I assume the minicab he was running from must have been!

[retrocop]

ummmmmm
So it is ok to illegally carry a firearm to shoot dealers ,is it ,in your interpretation of the law but the good guys who are legally carrying firearms in the execution of their duty are not allowed to protect themselves?

[Baldric]

\\\I wonder what his intent was in carrying a gun in the first place\\\

Worth a guess maybe?

///Before his death, Duggan, 29, was considered to be one of Britain’s most violent gangsters who was linked to ten shootings and two murders.///

[shoota]

I think ummm was answering Ric-ror Retro, not expressing an opinion.

[retrocop]

Thanks shoota for clearing that up.I missed ric.ror's post.My mistake.