Bigots On The March Again In The States

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-32141605

These people would repeal all equality laws if they could. Disgraceful.

[Peter Pedant]

// and Clanad does fly an aeroplane.//

then he will know or expect after germanwings every little detail of his this-or-that will be disclosed to his employer....

in case he shortens the life expectancy not of a few gays but a few hundred teenagers....

[ummmm]

So you don't ever hold your husbands hand or link arms with him?

[Jackdaw33]

When the state pension was first introduced you had to reach the age of 70 to qualify. Looks as if we're heading in that direction again.

[Ellipsis]

> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-32141605

Religious intolerance. Definitely a retrograde step.

[mikey4444]

Ellipsis...glad to oblige...the voice of common sense ( although I am not really allowed to say that ! )

[sp1814]

Gay people are held to a different (and more restrictive) set of standards with regards to flaunting themselves.

Will look for a picture in a mo as an example.

[sp1814]

Is this a hauntingly beautiful picture, or two people flaunting their sexuality?

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/08/06/nyregion/06kiss1.span.jpg

[sp1814]

What about this?

http://www.midway.org/files/historic-kiss.jpg

[Ellipsis]

Thanks mikey.

Mary and Joseph turn up at an inn, desperate for accommodation. Mary is heavily pregnant and due to give birth. The friendly innkeeper says "Come on in, we've got loads of room." Then they notice the innkeeper's "partner". They decline and walk away to find a local barn ...

In other words ... here the religious are being intolerant of another social group. They need to take care that they do not legitimise religious intolerance, or they might find others being legitimately intolerant of them.

[naomi24]

Ummmm, holding hands is not flaunting it.

[sp1814]

And what about these exhibitionists!

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/272001/BEST-ROYAL-WEDDING-PHOTO.jpg

[sp1814]

And before anyone mentions Gay Pride, I would point out that every single Friday and Saturday night throughout cities and towns in the UK, there are hundreds of thousands of young straight men doused in Lambrini and bad after shave, half dressed and managing to copulate whilst holding onto kebabs.

It's their 'Straight Pride'.

So let's be fair...

[naomi24]

^ I don't like that either.

Let me give you an example. A friend of ours 'came out' and on that very day 'campness' (if that's the word) and smutty innuendo took over. He'd never behaved that way before. That's 'flaunting' it.

[jackthehat]

Acceptable....
http://samluce.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/couple-holding-hands-jupiterimages-425kb072709.jpeg

Flaunting it....
http://fscomps.fotosearch.com/compc/BNS/BNS390/bn302013.jpg

[mikey4444]

Isn't that his business if he did Naomi ?

We can't all behave in ways that don't offend Naomi every day, now can we ?
What a dull world that would be !

[naomi24]

Jack, See my posts at 17:25 and at 17.37.

[jackthehat]

I have.

[ummmm]

Maybe he was camp all along but had been hiding it.

[Clanad]

SP, isn't it strange that none of the "footnotes" associated with extensive further studies reference the Cameron research you find so onerous? As an example:

1.Gay men lifespan shorter than non gay men: "The life expectancy for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for men in general. Robert S. Hogg et al., "Modeling the Impact of HIV Disease on Mortality in Gay and Bisexual Men," International Journal of Epidemiology 26 (1997): 657." (Exodus Global Alliance, exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
2."In 2007, MSM [Men Sex with Men] were 44 to 86 times as likely to be diagnosed with HIV compared with other men, and 40 to 77 times as likely as women." (Center for Disease Control, http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm)
3.Domestic Violence higher among homosexuals: "'the incidence of domestic violence among gay men is nearly double that in the heterosexual population.'(Gwat Yong Lie and Sabrina Gentlewarrier, "Intimate Violence in Lesbian Relationships: Discussion of Survey Findings and Practice Implications," Journal of Social Service Research 15 (1991): 41–59." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
4.Sex of women with women at greater health risk than women with men: "For women, a history of sex with women may be a marker for increased risk of adverse sexual, reproductive, and general health outcomes compared with women who reported sex exclusively with men." (American Journal of Public Health, ajph.aphapublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/97/6/1126)

"If mere homosexual activity harms no one, then why do gay men have a lifespan that is significantly less than heterosexual men (1 above)? Why is the homosexual man 44 to 86 times more likely to be diagnosed with HIV than heterosexual men (2)? Why is the incidence of domestic violence double that of heterosexual men (3)? Why do lesbian women have greater health risks than heterosexual women (4)?"

Yet, a contibutor here that is usually applauded for his/her scientific astuteness refuses to even look at the research available...

Naomi, I personally think there are several reasons a person "chooses" to be involved in homosexuality, based on the evidence. The choosing can be at an unconcious level, but not at a genetic level. The studies done on identical twins is especially enlightening and quickly belies the notion that individuals are just "born that way". The widely quoted gene expression research as causal to such activity is actually non-evidence and hasn't been replicated (no pun intended) since.

As a matter of fact many in the LGBT community, in articles I've read, find it unacceptable to consider malfunctioning genes as a cause, since this would, they believe, lable them as deficient or otherwise "unnormal". Yet, if evolution is to be believed, such activity is exactly that, since they are unable to reproduce and thus pass on that genetic trait.

Those who find the "life style" destructive and the adherents thereof generally very unhappy, are often accused of simply inventing their bias' out of whole cloth when the evidence is there for anyone that wishes to be objective in their own questioning...

[sp1814]

naomi24

Thanks for your example, but as ummm has said, perhaps he didn't become camp...maybe the camp was always there, screaming (yes) to come out?

However, I see where you're coming from - I myself find it odd that some straight blokes have to be 'over straight'. Too 'geezer-like' for no discernible reason.

They are the straight equivalent of 'camp'.

Perhaps they could be called 'damp'?