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Second Scottish Referendum Anybody ?
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Alex Salmond could be right here. If Britain as a nation, votes to come out of the EU in any future referendum, he is saying that it would precipitate a second Scottish Independence referendum.
Considering the present huge popularity of the SNP, it would seem to me that the answer would be a resounding YES the next time !
Alex Salmond could be right here. If Britain as a nation, votes to come out of the EU in any future referendum, he is saying that it would precipitate a second Scottish Independence referendum.
Considering the present huge popularity of the SNP, it would seem to me that the answer would be a resounding YES the next time !
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The UK's existence came about with the union of its constituent parts - a family of sorts.
If three members of a family of four adults (say people from the UK, living in the UK) decide they are going to live in Australia but the fourth does not want that, it would not be reasonable to say that the emigration must go ahead and apply to the entire family. Once the three leave, the fourth is still eligible to remain in the UK. Now replace UK with EU.
As has been said above, last time the promises persuaded the wavering but that has gone sour. Similarly, the scare tactics have been worn out and the suggestion that an independent Scotland would not (if it wants to) continue more or less seamlessly to be a member of both the EU and NATO is now taken seriously by far fewer than before. A referendum on independence held now is much more likely to result in a Yes - after all, it would only take just over 5% to reverse their position and I have not come across any suggestions that those who voted Yes last time are changing their minds in significant numbers, on the contrary.
If three members of a family of four adults (say people from the UK, living in the UK) decide they are going to live in Australia but the fourth does not want that, it would not be reasonable to say that the emigration must go ahead and apply to the entire family. Once the three leave, the fourth is still eligible to remain in the UK. Now replace UK with EU.
As has been said above, last time the promises persuaded the wavering but that has gone sour. Similarly, the scare tactics have been worn out and the suggestion that an independent Scotland would not (if it wants to) continue more or less seamlessly to be a member of both the EU and NATO is now taken seriously by far fewer than before. A referendum on independence held now is much more likely to result in a Yes - after all, it would only take just over 5% to reverse their position and I have not come across any suggestions that those who voted Yes last time are changing their minds in significant numbers, on the contrary.
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Pete....I notice no authentication by oldbobof of his allegations.
During Stein's managerial time at Celtic they were the first UK team to win the European Cup,and NINE Scottish league titles in a row including two trebles.
These achievements would not appear to leave much time for any extra curricular activities as promulgated .
During Stein's managerial time at Celtic they were the first UK team to win the European Cup,and NINE Scottish league titles in a row including two trebles.
These achievements would not appear to leave much time for any extra curricular activities as promulgated .
Old Bob, your post at 13.07.
I had a little look to see if there was anything in your accusation of the late Mr Stein on any reputable site.
There is nothing anywhere mentioning a "large paedophile ring" at Celtic Park.
Nor is there any accusation anywhere regarding knowledge or involvement by Mr Stein. One of the abused boys made it crystal clear that Mr Stein knew nothing about it.
Why did you do nothing about it, if you "knew"?
And why have you introduced this into a debate about a possible Scottish referendum?
Sir Oracle, I am aware of Celtic's achievements in that era.
They were certainly a very special club indeed.
Wish my club had a record even vaguely approaching their's!
I had a little look to see if there was anything in your accusation of the late Mr Stein on any reputable site.
There is nothing anywhere mentioning a "large paedophile ring" at Celtic Park.
Nor is there any accusation anywhere regarding knowledge or involvement by Mr Stein. One of the abused boys made it crystal clear that Mr Stein knew nothing about it.
Why did you do nothing about it, if you "knew"?
And why have you introduced this into a debate about a possible Scottish referendum?
Sir Oracle, I am aware of Celtic's achievements in that era.
They were certainly a very special club indeed.
Wish my club had a record even vaguely approaching their's!
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