Breaking: Phenom Jet Crash At Blackbushe Airport

[Hypognosis]

BBC website sometimes flashes breaking news at you. No one else has posted about this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-33736685


Not a lot to debate, this is a JFYI. There is a car auction site at the end of the runway and it may have overshot in the landing.

[retrocop]

4 dead in aircraft. No one killed on ground.Not disclosed yet where private jet plane was inbound from. Big fireball .Put out within 45mins by emergency services.

[Hypognosis]

Aviation Safety Network shows a registration (Saudi prefix) with a ? after it, so too soon to say. Was inbound from Milan Malpensa.

These things are often time-shared or rentals and nothing too much should be read into the country it is registered to.

[237SJ]

I`m not surprised there are 4 dead. Nobody would survive that.

[EcclesCake]

It is unusual for jets to land at Blackbushe, nearby Farnborough is the more usual site.

I suspect there was a malfunction and an emergency landing which went tragically wrong.

[237SJ]

Sounds like a routine landing that went tits up. Maybe a failure of the breaks or reverse thrust.

[237SJ]

*brakes*

[Hypognosis]

Landing distance 2,621'. Blackbushe R25 4,380'.

So, with that amount of safety margin, it must have been something gone dramatically wrong.

http://www.embraerexecutivejets.com/en-us/jets/phenom-300/pages/performance.aspx

I appreciate that specifications and actual pilot performance are not always the same.

200lbs (90kg) per passenger in the specs is remarkably generous and up to date.

[237SJ]

A landing that went tits up - it happens

[EDDIE51]

Owned by the family of Osama Bin Laden apparently.
Scroll down to #10
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/565448-light-aircraft-crash-blackbushe.html
Wait for the conspiracy theories !

[237SJ]

It`s human nature to speculate about these events.

[EcclesCake]

At it least it is a short journey for the AAIB.

Still wonder why they opted for Blackbushe it is not first choice for jets in the area, Farnborough has better facilities.

[EDDIE51]

That plane is based at Blackbushe, it is in and out several times a week.
Flying between Saudi and the UK.

[237SJ]

There`s a growing market for customers to charter unused legs of private jet flights. Maybe the passengers were such.

[Hypognosis]

Thanks EDDIE.

I will check out that link shortly.

I haven't had Flightradar24 for much more than a year and for about half of that, the reg numbers and to/from routes on bizjets have been censored. Approximately concurrent with the rise of the media expression "the 1%", if you want to spin a conspiracy theory about it.

So, if you know the plane is a regular there, I take it that you are a local or know someone who is in the know. (Rhetorical, if you prefer).

[EDDIE51]

It's all in the link to PPRUNE several posters on there say they know the plane and it is a very regular visitor to Blackbushe. As I said it is owned by the Bin Laden family one of the wealthiest families in Saudi Arabia.
Osma Bin Laden was the son and 'black sheep' of the family.

[237SJ]

I wouldn`t take too much notice of what people say on Pprune. Rumours are rife in aviagtion and many posters are plane spotters and they don`t know what they are talking about (according to my OH who commands 747s for a living)

[Peter Pedant]

I qqwondered about Blackbushe in Surrey

it used to be an airfield in Hampshire ( fifty years ago )

[Hypognosis]

Something of a banzai approach pattern. Based only on a written description I have encoutered, this is how the military do their arrival pattern, in VFR conditions.

I'm not suggesting this was a military pilot but I might suggest a touch of 'wannabe' or just plain over-exuberant "jet-jock".

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/565448-light-aircraft-crash-blackbushe-2.html#post9065423