Breaking: Phenom Jet Crash At Blackbushe Airport

[Hypognosis]

BBC website sometimes flashes breaking news at you. No one else has posted about this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-33736685


Not a lot to debate, this is a JFYI. There is a car auction site at the end of the runway and it may have overshot in the landing.

[Hypognosis]

@peter_pedant

If you get around to doing any genealogy, you will find that county boundaries have an annoying habit of moving around, over the years.


www.blackbusheairport.co.uk
Blackbushe Airport. Located on the border of Hampshire and Surrey, Blackbushe Airport provides some of the finest ...


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[237SJ]

I`m inclined to agree with you, Divebuddy

[Hypognosis]

@methyl

//There is so much open heathland and sandpits around Blackbushe we must assume that the pilot had a catastropheric loss of control.//

So that flightpath profile I linked to is a complete fabrication, is it?

[Hypognosis]

You're obviously viewing the graphic on a full size screen and can see more than I can, on this phone, even zooming in on the image. I will sleep on it and have a proper look on the PC, tomorrow. All I'm seeing is the green line along the runway, with the approach running left to right. The report said R25 so I'll need to use google earth to swivel the ground round to match the non-north orientation depicted in that graphic.

[mikey4444]

I saw Bob Dylan at Blackbushe aerodrome in July 1978 !

[douglas9401]

Most likely for the same reason that relatives of Harold Shipman or Raoul Moat are allowed to go to Sainsbury's if they want, Bouncer33.
They haven't done anything wrong.

[ummmm]

Exactly.

[lindapalmara]

Seems like the Bin Laden family were involved !!

[New Judge]

"Most likely for the same reason that relatives of Harold Shipman or Raoul Moat are allowed to go to Sainsbury's..."

I imagine that Harold Shipman's and Raoul Moat's relatives are UK citizens living in the UK and do not need leave to come here. I doubt the same can be said of the Bin Laden clan. If they are Saudi citizens they need a visa and the UK should be a bit more choosey (in this and many other respects) when deciding who to allow on its shores.

[douglas9401]

The comment addressed guilt by association and not travel documents as I'm sure the court realises.

[mikey4444]

I can't see any reason whatsoever why relatives of Bin Laden shouldn't be allowed to come to Britain if they chose to do so. As far as I am aware, his large, extended family haven't been accused of anything.

[Hypognosis]

Have checked in Google earth and the PPRUNE approach graph I linked to, previously, has north at the bottom.

The pilot completes a circuit and lines up for the runway about 3000 ft from the displaced threshold of R25. At 100 knots this would take about 18 seconds.

Google Earth's measuring tool is giving me ~3760ft from the displaced threshold of 25 to the far end of the runway. The 4380' figure mentioned before is the full length of the tarmac, which isn't all useable because of trees, in the approach path.

In the PPRUNE graphic the touchdown is pin-sharp on the start of the useable portion of the runway. I said banzai earlier but I should retract that as everything went right up to the point of runway contact. Aligning with the runway further out would have made no difference to what transpired.


Condolences are due but, perhaps, we should leave issues of who they were and why they were coming here for another thread?

Questions surrounding single pilot operations on a long-ish haul, like this and siting a car auction in a runway overrun area are for this thread. I only bothered posting this because there was something odd about it.

[retrocop]

Mikey
Your friend has to blame Cameron on every and any OP that appears. If a Punch and Judy show came to town our troll would pop up and blame Cameron!!

[mikey4444]

R-cop...I am aware of Bouncers little foibles. While we share some common political views, I don't always support him on everything he posts.

[retrocop]

:-)

[Gromit]

The Bin Laden family own a respected Construction company in Saudi. Osama was the black sheep of the family, rather like Patty Hirst who became a terrorist. The family themselves are bona fide so can enter the country just like another wealthy business person, assuming they have the correct documentation.