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The Oldest Gay In The Village
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How cool is this guy ...
http:// www.bbc .co.uk/ news/uk -englan d-susse x-33741 380
Every year, he takes part in the Pride Parade ... on his mobility scooter !!
He carries a banner saying " I'm the oldest gay in the village".
In the past, he has been given a criminal conviction for being gay. This weekend, he married his BF, to coincide with Pride Weekend.
That's the way to go when you're in your 90s!
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Every year, he takes part in the Pride Parade ... on his mobility scooter !!
He carries a banner saying " I'm the oldest gay in the village".
In the past, he has been given a criminal conviction for being gay. This weekend, he married his BF, to coincide with Pride Weekend.
That's the way to go when you're in your 90s!
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I'm curious to know what JJ will get from the Eds when her thread goes over 300.....☺
09:56 Tue 04th Aug 2015
A nice lunch....2 glasses of good wine...........and now my thoughts.
Of course there is a relationship between homosexuality and paedophilia, but it involves pre-legalised homosexuality.The older homosexuals, repressed, may well have turned to paedophilia, or the other way round many homosexuals were paedophiles.
Jimmy Saviile was homosexual.....according to sqad.
leon Britton was homosexual...according to sqad.
Cyril Smith was homosexual...according to sqad
Edwarth heath was homosexual ...according to sqad.
Evidence? None.............just had a look and lifestyle of a homosexual.
So that is the connection that has caused so much consternation on this thread............there is a connection.
Post legalisation: the homosexuals seem to be a younger group of individuals, less repressed, open and less likely to indulge in paedophilia.
Evidence? None.
Of course there is a relationship between homosexuality and paedophilia, but it involves pre-legalised homosexuality.The older homosexuals, repressed, may well have turned to paedophilia, or the other way round many homosexuals were paedophiles.
Jimmy Saviile was homosexual.....according to sqad.
leon Britton was homosexual...according to sqad.
Cyril Smith was homosexual...according to sqad
Edwarth heath was homosexual ...according to sqad.
Evidence? None.............just had a look and lifestyle of a homosexual.
So that is the connection that has caused so much consternation on this thread............there is a connection.
Post legalisation: the homosexuals seem to be a younger group of individuals, less repressed, open and less likely to indulge in paedophilia.
Evidence? None.
jackthehat
/// Whether the relationship breaks down, or is/becomes disfunctional that is a 'different' type of victim from the 'Paedophile' relationship which involves an innocent and vulnerable child....the child is the true victim. ///
You said that "there were no victims in Homosexual relationships"
Breaking up such a relationship creates a victim (the one who does not wish to break up) and if they happen to have had children, don't you also count those as victims?
You then stated,
/// whereas a Paedophile can't have a relationship, in the same terms of mutual consent and
understanding, ///
To which I gave you my answer, just because you have moved the goal posts doesn't mean that my oroginal answers were not valid.
You said that I gave a sweeping statement regarding the strength being gay relation ships, to which you said you would come back to, but which you didn't.
So in reply I say just do a google search regarding gay relationships and you will find numerous sites that support my 'sweeping statement'.
Finally in answer to your question "have you ever taken part in any sort of Carnival"?
My answer is no, not taken an active part, but I have gone along to various Charity Carnivals that have taken place over the years, such as the Hospital Carnivals that took place pre NHS days.
/// Whether the relationship breaks down, or is/becomes disfunctional that is a 'different' type of victim from the 'Paedophile' relationship which involves an innocent and vulnerable child....the child is the true victim. ///
You said that "there were no victims in Homosexual relationships"
Breaking up such a relationship creates a victim (the one who does not wish to break up) and if they happen to have had children, don't you also count those as victims?
You then stated,
/// whereas a Paedophile can't have a relationship, in the same terms of mutual consent and
understanding, ///
To which I gave you my answer, just because you have moved the goal posts doesn't mean that my oroginal answers were not valid.
You said that I gave a sweeping statement regarding the strength being gay relation ships, to which you said you would come back to, but which you didn't.
So in reply I say just do a google search regarding gay relationships and you will find numerous sites that support my 'sweeping statement'.
Finally in answer to your question "have you ever taken part in any sort of Carnival"?
My answer is no, not taken an active part, but I have gone along to various Charity Carnivals that have taken place over the years, such as the Hospital Carnivals that took place pre NHS days.
///You said that "there were no victims in Homosexual relationships" ///
Yes, I did....but I tried to qualify what I meant.
In terms of 'consenting adults willingly entering into a relationship, neither party can be viewed as a victim.
Which cannot be said about a vulnerable child.
I really can't explain it any better than that.....
SP has answered your 'sweeping generalisation' regarding gay relationships and their stability.
Like you, I have been a conservative (small c) attendee of many carnivals, not all of them Gay Pride rallies, and have been happy to leave the 'dressing-up' to those with a more natural inclination.....I'm sure there were people who had dressed up at your carnivals? Usually there is at least one portly chap who can't wait to put on a frock of some description...
Yes, I did....but I tried to qualify what I meant.
In terms of 'consenting adults willingly entering into a relationship, neither party can be viewed as a victim.
Which cannot be said about a vulnerable child.
I really can't explain it any better than that.....
SP has answered your 'sweeping generalisation' regarding gay relationships and their stability.
Like you, I have been a conservative (small c) attendee of many carnivals, not all of them Gay Pride rallies, and have been happy to leave the 'dressing-up' to those with a more natural inclination.....I'm sure there were people who had dressed up at your carnivals? Usually there is at least one portly chap who can't wait to put on a frock of some description...
divebuddy - //And I expect that anyone who was a victim of homosexual rape, especially if they weren't actually homosexual themselves, wouldn't be too interested in splitting hairs as to whether they were a victim of homosexuality or not. They just might think that if that guy wasn't a homosexual, it wouldn't have happened. //
Rape - on either gender - is not about sex, it's about violence.
Just pop into any high security prison in the U.S. and ask to check the stats on male rapes committed on men who are heterosexual BY men who are heterosexual.
Rape is about control by force, sex is not part of it, so appropriate orientation is not a prerequisite.
Rape - on either gender - is not about sex, it's about violence.
Just pop into any high security prison in the U.S. and ask to check the stats on male rapes committed on men who are heterosexual BY men who are heterosexual.
Rape is about control by force, sex is not part of it, so appropriate orientation is not a prerequisite.
AOG - ///// no victims in Homosexual relationships ///
Since it is well known that Homosexual relationships are not generally built on firm foundations, I presume there are many victims. //
Well-known by whom - do you have any evidence for that sweeping (and I would certainly suggest, inaccurate!) statement
/// whereas a Paedophile can't have a relationship, in the same terms of mutual consent and understanding, ///
If this was true there would be no such thing as tight Paedophile rings.
Did I read this right? //
No, you didn't.
Paedophile rings are secretive and 'tight' because they are not only illegal, but likely to bring severe reaction from any non-paedophile who heard anything about their activities.
Since it is well known that Homosexual relationships are not generally built on firm foundations, I presume there are many victims. //
Well-known by whom - do you have any evidence for that sweeping (and I would certainly suggest, inaccurate!) statement
/// whereas a Paedophile can't have a relationship, in the same terms of mutual consent and understanding, ///
If this was true there would be no such thing as tight Paedophile rings.
Did I read this right? //
No, you didn't.
Paedophile rings are secretive and 'tight' because they are not only illegal, but likely to bring severe reaction from any non-paedophile who heard anything about their activities.
Sqad - //Of course there is a relationship between homosexuality and paedophilia, but it involves pre-legalised homosexuality.The older homosexuals, repressed, may well have turned to paedophilia, or the other way round many homosexuals were paedophiles. //
Wow, in a thread that has contained not a few breathtakingly uneducated statements - that first sentence rises right to the top.
'Of course there is a relationship between drinking and road deaths. One third of the bodies recovered from road deaths contain above the legal limit of alcohol, therefore all drinkers are killers'.
Ludicrous? Of course - now you know how it feels!!!
Wow, in a thread that has contained not a few breathtakingly uneducated statements - that first sentence rises right to the top.
'Of course there is a relationship between drinking and road deaths. One third of the bodies recovered from road deaths contain above the legal limit of alcohol, therefore all drinkers are killers'.
Ludicrous? Of course - now you know how it feels!!!
Sqad - //Jimmy Saviile was homosexual.....according to sqad.
leon Britton was homosexual...according to sqad.
Cyril Smith was homosexual...according to sqad
Edwarth heath was homosexual ...according to sqad.
Evidence? None.............just had a look and lifestyle of a homosexual. //
What does a homosexual look like? What is the 'lifestyle'?
// So that is the connection that has caused so much consternation on this thread............there is a connection.
Post legalisation: the homosexuals seem to be a younger group of individuals, less repressed, open and less likely to indulge in paedophilia.//
I know several posters are banging away at this notion, but hey, one more voice won't hurt -
Homosexuality - an attraction to, and desire to form relationships with - someone of the same gender who is past puberty.
Paedophilia - an attraction to, and desire to form relationships with a child of pre-pubescent age, causing long-term physical and psychological damage.
How on earth you get a connection from those two I find utterly baffling!!
Just because homosexuality was illegal and opportunities were limited does not mean that homosexuals automatically turned to child abuse as 'the next best thing, and better than nothing' which is your inference - that is utterly farcical, and shows considerable ignorance of the specifics of either orientation.
Evidence? None.
leon Britton was homosexual...according to sqad.
Cyril Smith was homosexual...according to sqad
Edwarth heath was homosexual ...according to sqad.
Evidence? None.............just had a look and lifestyle of a homosexual. //
What does a homosexual look like? What is the 'lifestyle'?
// So that is the connection that has caused so much consternation on this thread............there is a connection.
Post legalisation: the homosexuals seem to be a younger group of individuals, less repressed, open and less likely to indulge in paedophilia.//
I know several posters are banging away at this notion, but hey, one more voice won't hurt -
Homosexuality - an attraction to, and desire to form relationships with - someone of the same gender who is past puberty.
Paedophilia - an attraction to, and desire to form relationships with a child of pre-pubescent age, causing long-term physical and psychological damage.
How on earth you get a connection from those two I find utterly baffling!!
Just because homosexuality was illegal and opportunities were limited does not mean that homosexuals automatically turned to child abuse as 'the next best thing, and better than nothing' which is your inference - that is utterly farcical, and shows considerable ignorance of the specifics of either orientation.
Evidence? None.
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divebuddy - //Douglas, that's what Andy does, fires his shotgun in all directions because he has no idea where or what the target is. While manfully ignoring his own (fatal) injuries by refusing to respond to points showing how ludicrous his thinking often is. //
Actually divebuddy, as you very well know, each and every post I write is preceded by the quoted post to which I am responding - so there is no question of not knowing where my 'target' is - is there?
//While manfully ignoring his own (fatal) injuries by refusing to respond to points showing how ludicrous his thinking often is. //
If you feel I have failed to address any points or questions directed to me, then please advise, that is entirely an oversight, I always respond to any direct points made to me.
//I suppose he'll think I'm being personal and rude. So why does it never occur him that constantly calling those who don't share his views, uneducated, breathtakingly ludicrous, ignorant, abhorrent, etc. etc. is just that. //
Not at all - anyone and everyone is entitled to call my views anything they like - as long as they can back up what they are saying - like I do.
Actually divebuddy, as you very well know, each and every post I write is preceded by the quoted post to which I am responding - so there is no question of not knowing where my 'target' is - is there?
//While manfully ignoring his own (fatal) injuries by refusing to respond to points showing how ludicrous his thinking often is. //
If you feel I have failed to address any points or questions directed to me, then please advise, that is entirely an oversight, I always respond to any direct points made to me.
//I suppose he'll think I'm being personal and rude. So why does it never occur him that constantly calling those who don't share his views, uneducated, breathtakingly ludicrous, ignorant, abhorrent, etc. etc. is just that. //
Not at all - anyone and everyone is entitled to call my views anything they like - as long as they can back up what they are saying - like I do.
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