Should Very Thin Models Be Banned From The Catwalk?

[sp1814]

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/8151706

France has implemented a rule that models should have a BMI of at least 18 (which is bloody skinny to be honest).

When you see these ultra-skinny models, do you wince?

Do you get angry that young women are having this presented as a physical ideal?

Or, like me - do you think "This is no different from what Twiggy and Jean Shrimpton looked like in the 60s"?

[sp1814]

AOG

youngmafbog referred to refugees (admittedly responding to Lynn_M).

Refugees are immigrants.

[hc4361]

Not necessarily, sp. There are women's refuges in the UK for the victims of domestic violence, for example, where the majority of those seeking refuge are native Brits.

[Svejk]

Instead of digging a deeper hole, how about being a man and apologizing to YMB.

[Svejk]

DOH!! Just scrolled back. Sorry, sp.

[sp1814]

Svejk

Like me, you've missed a post. I originally thought ymb had introduced immigration to this thread.

It was pointed out that he hadn't.

Check on the previous page, and I think you'll see my apology.

Easy to miss answers, isn't it?

[Hypognosis]

Can somebody please explain to me how/why 'refugee' is not synonymous with 'immigrant'?

If you leave one country then, of necessity, you've entered another.

[Hypognosis]

I'm wondering if they look skinny just because they're all tall?

Using the nhs online calculator and adjusting weight to get BMI 18
5ft 10 (177.8 cm) leads to a weight limit of
8st 0 (57 kg)

So it is weight(in kg) divided by height (in metres)^2

NHS site rates BMI 18 as underweight but 18.5 is the lower end of their healthy range so there's only a kilo or two in it.

Reputedly, all those whi grew up during wartime/postwar rationing were skinny at the time but are all living to a ripe old age. Any 40s/50s height/weight stats would be really handy, at this point.

At this stage, I'd be inclined to ban the agencies who are pushing this trend but data could yet change my opinion.

[Retrochic]

57 kilo = 126 lbs = 9 stone.

[Mosaic]

I'd love to see a really empirical study on BMI and health / longevity.
My suspicion is that the better of kids who experienced wartime deprivation might be living longer. But factoring in acute social deprivation, smoking, disease, multiple pregnancies and industrial illnesses are important to consider when theorising about whole populations.
Wealthy women were taller,had bigger feet (look closely in a footwear museum - I know I have!) hence a bigger pelvic girdle and better prospects of a healthy birth......
But suspicions are not empirical.
I perceive a need to mention poor brown people in a favourable light, to wind up the usual suspects, but as I'm all chilled out in Amsterdam I can't be r-sed.
This is a good thread with possibilities to address and reflect on the terrible ills besetting our kids. Jourdain- hugs for your neice and for you. Size? Some may recall the fame and following of 'two ton Tessie O'Shea'.

[Hypognosis]

@Retrochic

Thanks. I was copying figures from the NHS site; there are switches to flip between imperial and metric so dawg knows what conversion factors it was applying. 2.204lbs per kg, of course. (I'm annoyed that I have to look that up online rather than read it off a packet of something, these days).