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Charlotte Church - 'the Real World'
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Following Charlotte's appearance on Question Time, does she have a point about Syria?
Does anybody know what is meant these days when referring to the real world anyway?
Does anybody know what is meant these days when referring to the real world anyway?
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Svejk, same news article in the Telegraph. Or are you saying that Columbia University and the University of California are lefties?
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"Or are you saying that Columbia University and the University of California are lefties? "
The academics say that a drought was a factor in civil unrest. Which it may have been. And that the drought was the result of human-caused climate change. How does that answer ZacsMaster's question, I wonder?
The academics say that a drought was a factor in civil unrest. Which it may have been. And that the drought was the result of human-caused climate change. How does that answer ZacsMaster's question, I wonder?
The actual Syrian civil war (which some seem to think is a conflict between a legitimate government and "terrorists") was sparked by violent peaceful protest, which ignited dormant sectarian and tribal animosity. A moderate opposition was radicalised by a combinaation of outside elements and a feeling of being let down by "the west". And the whole thing has now the potential to ignite a hige, wider conflict
But I guess she's referring to the reasons people got cross in the first place and started protesting peacefully. We know that people in Tunisia started protesting against the government these when economic hardship got too much to bear. So if the droughts caused by global warming were a factor in the discontent in Syria at the outset, then in a cause and efffect sort of way she does have a point. I guess the "real world" approach involves taking a wide array of factors into account to explain a situation. I suspect therefore that the "real world" approach she favours should also include other factors in the causes for unrest, such as repression, torture, etc.
But I guess she's referring to the reasons people got cross in the first place and started protesting peacefully. We know that people in Tunisia started protesting against the government these when economic hardship got too much to bear. So if the droughts caused by global warming were a factor in the discontent in Syria at the outset, then in a cause and efffect sort of way she does have a point. I guess the "real world" approach involves taking a wide array of factors into account to explain a situation. I suspect therefore that the "real world" approach she favours should also include other factors in the causes for unrest, such as repression, torture, etc.
it's been suggested that most future wars will be about water rather than about land, so this isn't particularly off-the-wall. Downstream people get agitated about upstream people taking or polluting their supply. It's even happening in the USA, though not to the point of war
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Climate change will obviously exacerbate this.
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Climate change will obviously exacerbate this.
"So because the universities are part of the capitalist western world that has contributed the most to global warming, they're lefties?"
No. "Lefty" because (1) their presumption that the drought was man-made (which it may have been, I don't know - neither, I think, do they), and, more importantly, (2) they are part of US academia, it being pretty well impossible to have tenure at a US university without being fully subscribed to whatever lunacy is today's fashion.
No. "Lefty" because (1) their presumption that the drought was man-made (which it may have been, I don't know - neither, I think, do they), and, more importantly, (2) they are part of US academia, it being pretty well impossible to have tenure at a US university without being fully subscribed to whatever lunacy is today's fashion.
she is bonkers. The sotuation in Suria had nothing to do with climate, it is political. It is a war between the superpowers and Syria is the latest flashpoint after Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan. The Assad regime has been there since 1970, but 5 years ago, Washington decided a civil war, with the aim of toppling the Russian sponsored regime was a viable option and they began to throw vast amounts of money at supporting the rebels.
Unfortunately the civil war has not gone well, and there are now many opposing factions with different aim. 5 years later we have Saudi Arabian wahabbi lunatics in on the act trying to capture the country for Allah, and the Kurds trying to eke out an homeland, who the Turks are trying to stop. A real mess in other words, all the result of Washington's meddling.
Unfortunately the civil war has not gone well, and there are now many opposing factions with different aim. 5 years later we have Saudi Arabian wahabbi lunatics in on the act trying to capture the country for Allah, and the Kurds trying to eke out an homeland, who the Turks are trying to stop. A real mess in other words, all the result of Washington's meddling.
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