"the Health Service Is Safe In Our Hands" ?

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34353408

The Tories have been in power for over 5 years, but according to this, the NHS is in serious difficulties. To quote from the BBC report :::

Regulators said the problems were the "worst for a generation" and demanded immediate action be taken.

dave promised us that the NHS would be ring-fenced, so why is close to collapse now ?

Just in case anybody thinks the BBC would say that, wouldn't they :::

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/nhs/11921381/NHS-faces-biggest-financial-crisis-in-a-generation.html

[naomi24]

Mikey, for the umpteenth time, the Tories haven't been in power for over five years. Until 5 months ago we had a coalition government - but don't let the facts stop you spinning.

[mikey4444]

Naomi....we had a Tory PM in Number Ten since 2010...the same one that is still there now.

You know exactly what I meant.....Address the issue and don't nit-pick !

[naomi24]

I'm not nit-picking. I'm putting you straight - again. I'll read the article and if I've anything to say about it I'll be back.

[mikey4444]

I will look forward to what you have to say then Naomi !

[VHG]

The NHS is badly run, inefficient, overpays for drugs, fails to make foreigners pay for medical treatment when they come to the uk, fails to retrieve medical equipment no longer needed (like wheelchairs and crutches), pays way over the odds for agency staff and more and more and more.

There is HUGE room for cost savings and they do almost none of it.

[bazwillrun]

and it was a perfectly run well oiled machine under labour was it ?

[jim360]

The Coalition was basically 95% Tory anyway, with the Lib Dems being held up as human punchbags for the most part.

[Old_Geezer]

The Tories had the whip hand in the last coalition government, merely throwing the odd bone to the lapdogs. In any case it matters little, they'll have privatised the lot eventually.

[mikey4444]

Thank ou Jim...at least someone understands !

The NHS has miriad problems, and staffing in one of the most important.
Just to please Naomi, (!) lets say that the same person has been in Number Ten since 2010, so if the Tories are wedded to the success of the NHS, and they keep saying that they are, why haven't they done enough since 2010 ?

[Sqad]

mikey

\\\\so if the Tories are wedded to the success of the NHS, and they keep saying that they are, why haven't they done enough since 2010 ?\\

How long and how far does it take to turn around a supertanker on the high seas to avoid a disaster? The NHS is like a supertanker and it will not be "turned around" in a decade.......a generation even. It has been deteriorating and mismanaged for 40 years under both main Political parties.

Don't blame Dave, Tony, Margaret or Harold Wilson, blame yourselves, in that you wanted a free NHS, the Envy of the World and the Politicians have to comply.

Fear not £8billion will be readily available to prop it up.

My sympathies are with both main Political Parties who have to provide the impossible dream.

[mikey4444]

Sqad...a lot of what you say may very well be true. My point was that one of the basic tenants of the Tories return to power was that they would ring fence the NHS and they haven't !

[Sqad]

mikey....mikey......all parties tell "porkies" to get back in....that's politics.

[Togo]

I wonder if anyone has looked at the Local Health Board performances and correlated the figures with whether they are dominated by say Conservative or Labour council authorities? Or is this an answer that we all know? Perhaps you have the comparisons for Wales mikey. Wales being probably as a whole the statistically worst place to be admitted to hospital or A&E.

[EDDIE51]

I remember asking on here just after the election '' How about a sweepstake on which election promise will be the first for a U turn ?'' I seem to remember the NHS was a popular choice.

[Togo]

Tenet. Principle or belief.

[fiction-factory]

I'm not aware that there has been any U turn or reneging on any election pledge. The agreed budgets have been allocated but for whatever reason many areas have overspent. Hasn't that pretty much always been the case with the NHS? I suspect we could give the NHS another £20 billion a year and it would all get spent. I am sure a few extra billion will be found as a sticking plaster solution since it is small beer when the NHS in the UK costs around £115 billion a year

[Togo]

By my reckoning £115 billion a year equates to about £1720 a year for every man, woman, and child in the UK, every year, for life. That would buy some health insurance wouldn't it.

[mikey4444]

The reality is that after 5 years of Tory rule ( sorry Naomi, almost nearly Tory rule, with a Tory PM ! ).... the NHS is on its knees. All those that voted Tory in May please defend !

[bazwillrun]

and for some odd reason mikey is implying that labor would not have caused the problems he seems to think the conservatives have...talk about deluded....