Is Theresa May About To Butter Up To The National Black Police Association?

[anotheoldgit]

/// The Home Secretary will say to the National Black Police Association Conference that it is “simply not true that knife crime is rising because the police are no longer stopping and searching those carrying knives”. ///

Then please tell us Home Secretary, why is there a rise in knife crime?

And whilst querying quotas, I wonder how many white officers are in the National Black Police Association?

[sp1814]

VHG

The term 'black' is perfectly acceptable. Your friend was merely voicing and opinion, rather than stating a fact.

You'll find that many older people think that the term 'black' is somehow rude, and default to 'coloured'.

It really isn't rude at all.

Don't worry.

[Old_Geezer]

It's personal opinion. Recall the fuss in the US when that Cumber-whatsit actor referred to black people. The Net went wild with argument in places.

[Hopkirk]

Actually it was the exact opposite, Old Geezer

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/jan/26/benedict-cumberbatch-apologises-after-calling-black-actors-coloured

[Old_Geezer]

Ah ok. As I age my memory gets worse. But I still think it underlines that things are a matter of opinion.

[Hopkirk]

I get confused as well. It doesn't seem long since using the word black was frowned on.

[retrocop]

The majority around my way aren't even black. Their skin is more brown. Talking Afro-Caribbeans not M.E. Confusing to know what to call them innit?

[Hopkirk]

Mind you I am called white, but my skin is more a pinky light beige colour.

[anotheoldgit]

It is all so confusing, seems it is okay to refer to black people as 'black', but not okay to refer to them as 'blacks', just the use of a plural makes all the difference, hence my 'people' usage.

[anotheoldgit]

Hopkirk

And it can change from winter to summer.

[zebo]

As long as there are Associations for Black Police, Black Teachers, there will be divisions, irrespective of the semantics.

[sp1814]

Not at all confusing. You've explained it in very few words.

[-Talbot-]

Benedict Cumberbatch apologises after calling black actors 'coloured'

And yet POTUS refers to black people a 'people of color'

?

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

In America, 'coloured' has no resonance.

'Coloured' a British term, which fell out of general use about 30 years ago.

'People of colour' is a relatively recent addition to the U.S. lexicon.

Further - 'coloured' in the 60s through to the 80s generally meant 'black', whereas 'people of colour' is an all-encompassing term which relates to non-White.

[-Talbot-]

whereas 'people of colour' is an all-encompassing term which relates to non-White.


Bit of an oxymoron then?

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

Not really.

But props on the use of 'oxymoron'.

One of my favourite words.

[Peter Pedant]

Teresa May referred to BME and I didnt know what that meant
deffo NOT British Middle Eastern - altho having a few arabic speakers would be useful I think

They call themselves British Afro Caribbeans - yo -ay-oh ! British has crept back into the title and yes they do consider themselves as British as you or me

and yes you have to be pretty thick skinned to survive in the force as you get abuse from both sides and if you are a girl as well
a lot of sexist nonsense -

[Peter Pedant]

// Sounds very racist to me (are Chinese allowed in the "black police federaton" for example)?//

do the chinese like being referred to as chinamen ? no apparently

why not ask them what they want to be called,
and call them that ?

[ the thing I object to is that the Scots tack themselves onto the English especially when there is money to be had ]

as for a Muslim being in the Diplomatic Protection Group !
what is wrong with a muslim testifying that a politician called him a plebe ? I see no issue there and no incongruity
O the Diplomatic protection group is there to do something else - like protect - oh yes I see - well you might have a point

[sandyRoe]

Would an African, a Nigerian for example, not be a bit put out to be described as an afro-Carribean?

[anotheoldgit]

Myself, I prefer to be called English since I was born in this country England, as were my forefathers before me.

I don't like being called British or a Brit, neither do I like to be called white.

But who cares if the English are offended?

The words England and English are only used to describe our sports teams and our language.

[THECORBYLOON]

Guess who once asked,
'Why do our Blacks still not class themselves British?'

Yup, the same one who doesn't like being called white or British.