Turkey Releases Audio Of Jet Warning

[ChillDoubt]

Should prove interesting:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34929242

[janbee]

... as you say, should now be interesting.. let's see what today's news brings on this subject. .

[ichkeria]

CIA fake
lol

[naomi24]

I'm still trying to work out how ten warnings were issued in a matter of seconds.

[ichkeria]

Quite easily as a matter of fact. These warnings are pretty blunt! And it seemed to work for the other plane ...
No doubt the Turkish air force were primed for this, but, as previously observed, this was the culmination (hopefully the culmination) of months of provocation.
Why, one might almost think ...
But I'll leave the conspiracy theories to others ...

[Peter Pedant]

I was persuaded that it was Real

but I imagine the Russians would say - they would say that wouldnt they

and also they could say - all you do is shut a fella with a heavy accent in a bog and record on a dictaphone and out pops ten warnings ....

Military aircraft dont listen to any frquencies xc their own - dont they ?

wasnt there some sailor-boy outside Copenhagen a few hundred years ago who said - I really dont hear any Russian transmissions ?
something like that

[Retrochic]

bit off topic but I thought this was quite humorous

http://starecat.com/looks-like-im-having-turkey-for-christmas-putin/

[naomi24]

//No doubt the Turkish air force were primed for this//

I wouldn't say 'no doubt', but there is indeed a possibility that they were primed for it - although of course that could just be a conspiracy theory - or not.

[Peter Pedant]

I am certain that the Russians had been doing this for weeeks
and not even saying oops sorry

and after a while you say if you do this - i will shoot you down


a bit like nasty neighbours but on an international scale

[douglas9401]

Ah, Peter, the oft misunderstood grumble about the weather and snack availability: Icy, no chips.

[retrocop]

So pleased our Typhoon/Tornado boys at Leuchars don't have a hair trigger on the panic button. If they did there would be loads of Crashed Migs all over UK airspace.If they actually thought Russia was there to bomb us they would of shot them down . Same old cat and mouse.Scramble ,fly along side,shake head at Ivan and make tut tutting gestures whist pointing thumb backwards and mouthing "Russia is back there mate.". They all fly home and have bacon and eggs for brekkie. So much more civilised and controlled. As for Captain Mannering's finest opening up on the pilots whilst under the brolly!!! Unthinkable. Barbaric,Savage and typical of your Johnny Turk.

[ichkeria]

retro, the Russian planes buzzing round our coasts have never, to my knowledge, actually flown into UK airspace, just behaved in a dangerous fashion by turning off certain flight transponders. Although I said that we would shoot them down if they DID do that, that is probably not true (though once a raning was issued, they would) We are not in a tense - effectively proxy - war situation with them, as Turkey is.
So the situation Turkey finds itself in is quite different.

[ichkeria]

There's quite an amusing cartoon I saw somewhere where Putin is taking to Erdogan about this: Erdogan asks Putin "why did you not heed our warnings?"
Putin replies: "Because I thought your warnings would be a load of were ***, like the EU and the US ones" :-)

[retrocop]

So Turkey thought they were about to get nuked so they thought it worthwhile to exercise a bit of muscle and prod the bear .Had they forgotten they are members of NATO? Turkey are playing a dangerous game and it would be helpful to all for them to nail their true colours to the mast so every one knows where they stand. Are they for or agin Daesh?

[bazwillrun]

Youd think the ruskies would know that there would be comms recordings...unless of course the turks have faked them...

[SirOracle]

Agreed Retrocop that it would be helpful to all if Turkey came clean on whether they are for or against Daesh.

This example of "trigger happy" behavior is hypocritical coming from a country who constantly carry out "excursions" over Greek territory.

[Khandro]

//Are they for or agin Daesh? //

Erdogan is a 'for'. Though ISIS is only a component in this megalomaniac's lust for power and the re-building of the Ottoman Empire on Sunni lines(with the added novelty of the EU attached), and himself as the Grand Sultan presiding over it. He is a cunning and highly dangerous madman.

[sevenOP]

ichkeria :"We are not in a tense - effectively proxy - war situation with them, as Turkey is. "

Who are the combatants in this 'proxy' war ?

[SirOracle]

Khandro.......Don't be so " mealy mouthed " about Erdogan. Just state your opinion frankly. :-)

BTW I totally agree with you and as I have said previously Turkey should NOT be allowed membership of the EU,for the simple reason that they are NOT Europeans.

[ichkeria]

",for the simple reason that they are NOT Europeans. "

Let's be honest, the fact that they are not (ahem, cough, er ... "Europeans") is the real reason for all the indignation about what's happened:-)

"Who are the combatants in this 'proxy' war ? "
The Turks are arming their "brother" Turkmen people in Syria, and the Russians, to whom they those people are the enemy of Assad (which they are) are bombing them. Russia is busting a gut to prop up Assad, Turkey is the sworn enemy of Assad.
We are a bit iffy with the Turks as the Turks hate the Kurds,, who are or have been the most effective fighting force against IS (oh, them....)

[retrocop]

ichkeria
As a matter of interest. Are the Turkish airforce entering Syria and bombing Daesh positions. I have lost track?