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// it is very frightening to have to make these decisions..for innocents will surely suffer...//

like those poor journos at Charlie Hebdo and customers at Bataclan ?

yeah I agree
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there are innocents on ALL sides of this.... whether it is in Syria..France..troops from wherever....ALL over.....
Gromit : "The Syrian Army (Assad's) are fighting on 2 fronts, one against ISIS and one against the good rebels. With ISIS beat, they can can concentrate on reclaiming their country and fnishing off the rest of the rebels. Assads professional army 300,000 + another 300,000 reservists will make short work of the 70,000 rebels.
Well done Dave."

The Syrians now have the launch codes for their S-300's in Damascus and Russia has deployed its S-400 missiles in Latakia and have now equipped their Su-34 planes with air-to-air missiles: the Americans had already sent 6 F-16 equipped with air-to-air missiles, and 300 airmen to Turkey's Incirlik airbase in August this year as part of Operation Inherent Resolve against ISIS. (ISIS has no air force )
So basically Russia/Syria could now impose their own missile-enforced no-fly zone but that had to be disrupted by US/NATO.
If that does not derail/escalate this complex situation Gromit, do you really think Operation Inherent Resolve and its cohorts would permit Syria/Russia to destroy its '70,000 moderates ?


















Is there much left to bomb? I think the vote last night was more about stating that the UK will stand shoulder to shoulder with the other opponents of ISIS.
Daesh seem to be making loads of dosh(for financing terrorism) out of flogging oil so yes there is something left to bomb.
@ Mikey.....just under a third of Labour MPs voted for war and the shadow foreign secretary failed to support his party leader publicly.
I'm not sure how that can't be construed as a bit of a disaster for the Labour party.
And I'm still very put out about the Mugabe issue.
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re "Seems a perfect description of yourself".
It's only a handful of people like you that bring this out of me.
Naomi, just because I didn't provide an alternative does not give you the right to presume a) we should do nothing and b) I'm "hand-wringing".
Of course something should be done, don't be so stupid. Just not like this.

You do seem to be fond of this term "hand-wringing" don't you. I know it's a pejorative, but surely the act of "hand-wringing" is actually a sign of empathy and compassion, something that perhaps you lack.

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