Comedy And Tragedy....

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/35244577
Reshuffle Woes for Jezza, how can they fight the Tories when they keep fighting themselves. Even I'm getting embarrassed by this turkey shoot.

[ChillDoubt]

From laughing stock to utter shambles. Pretty soon each member of the party would have held a Shadow post of one description or another. It's almost as if they're acting out one of Ianucci's The Thick Of It scripts. This stuff just writes itself.

[Orderlimit]

To be, or not to be.

[mushroom25]

woes? i don't think so. the labour front bench is now much more left wing than it was at the beginning of the week, with 3 moderates actually saving mr corbyn the bother of sacking them. this is the flavour of labour that the members voted for in electing him, with the biggest winning margin in party history.y the front bench better represents the left wing views that the membership wants.

[douglas9401]

This is the kind of rubbish that you get when you sell votes for £3.00 each like some down-market banana republic.
The man's certifiable.

[naomi24]

//the front bench better represents the left wing views that the membership wants. //

Sadly for them they haven't learnt what the electorate want.

[Quizmonster]

The English electorate, perhaps, but what we've got in no way reflects what the other three constituents of the UK voted for last May.
And, no, you don't need to explain how democracy works...having vastly the largest of the four electorates means that what England wants, England gets. A pity, but inevitable.

[naomi24]

I didn't see the Scots voting for them.

[Svejk]

They voted for mooer munney krankie.

[Canary42]

I can't see that it's any different from Major's b*st*rds (except that it's less significant since it's not the ruling Party).

But that won't of course stop the smearing by the running-scared Tory supporters.

[naomi24]

Labour don’t need help with smearing, Canary. They’re doing a pretty good job of it all by themselves. They lurch from disaster to disaster. Nothing for Tory supporters to be scared of. Don't kid yourself. Labour is no threat.

[dannyk13]

They could me more of a threat without Corbyn.

[ToraToraTora]

This is like one of those school soccer matches when you are 10 nil up and you start thinking of ways to amuse yourself because there is no opposition. Now when Dave gets a penalty he no longer goes direct for goal he tries something fancy and in PMQs yesterday even that worked! The bard would have loved it!

[ichkeria]

"This is the kind of rubbish that you get when you sell votes for £3.00 "

Indeed so. When you get rubbish voters you get a rubbish regime.
I am not embarrassed by this at all as a Labour supporter. It was all inevitable. I just hope the party stays as one, because if it heeds the advice of mischievous commentators on the right, it will hand the Tories power in perpetuity. It is a sad state of affairs indeed that I have to agree that currently the Cameron mob are a better bet than Corbyn's mob.
The Tories have been doing their damnedest to secure power for themselves indefinitely by a number of means:
Encouraging constituency reform as they see it as beneficial to them
Intimidating the BBC which it sees as "left wing"
Keeping the elderly happy at the expense of the young
Trying to muzzle Labour party funding

They must wonder why they bothered :-)

[Jackdaw33]

An unnecessary and spiteful reshuffle. He hadn't the wherewithal to sack the big guy so picked on the little guy. "Disloyalty?" From Corbyn? Don't make me laugh!

[ToraToraTora]

not rubbish voters Ich, the wrong voters, when you give them a chance to wreck your party for £3, your enemies would take that on as a lot cheaper than the usual way.

[dannyk13]

//Intimidating the BBC which it sees as "left wing"//
It has been left wing for a very long time.

[ichkeria]

The worry for me is that the Tories are not exactly popular, and you don;t become more popular or accepted just because the opposition is rubbish.

Corbyn and co want to undermine the role of parliament (which I would have thought might make them popular with some unlikely suspects on here!) but what will also underime parliament is a political system where we have no party that really captures the mood the way previous new govts have seemed to do, even if it was only a reaction to what came before

[ichkeria]

"not rubbish voters Ich, the wrong voters, when you give them a chance to wreck your party for £3, your enemies would take that on as a lot cheaper than the usual way. "

No, "rubbish" voters in my view are the so-called "activists" who drifted away from the party, allegedly because the party did not appeal to them, but rather then stay, or join as proper members, they decided to jump on a bandwagon that was passing their way, with a cheap fare

[ichkeria]

""Disloyalty?" From Corbyn? Don't make me laugh! "

Precisely. But we could see all this coming. A man who might have invented the word "disloyal" was never going to have people bending over backwards for him.
Corbyn was always disloyal though from the backbenches, and while up to now ministers have done their best to show a united front, the tensions are beginning to become more obvious: resignations on air, etc