Racism Against Whites Exists In Africa.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3426266/White-Zimbabwean-farming-family-driven-land-make-way-black-British-doctor.html

As suggested by one reader, the British Government should now seize the GPs property here and use it to compensate the evicted farmer.

[jackthehat]

///All this talk about how the whites forced the blacks off their land lol lol.///
Surely you must have seen evidence of this on your African travels?

///Most of this land was a dust bowl until the white settlers irrigated it and then cultivated it, it then attracted the natives from in where they lived, attracted by the better living conditions, that they could enjoy by working on these farms.///

The African civilisations had survived for millennia before their lands were appropriated and made 'efficient' to Western standards.
And the living/working conditions weren't as cosy as your outmoded paternalistic notions would have you believe.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

Don't try to accuse me of racism while at the same time supporting the throwing off and the confiscation of a white South African's land, by a none South African who happens to be black.

If that is not racism I don't know what is, as I have already said throw this doctor and his wife from their home, it is the only fair thing to do.

[douglas9401]

Can I cut throught all the spraff and pretentiousness to 'two wrongs don't make a right'.
You know it's looming.

[Baldric]

///Phillip and Anita Rankin both have British ancestry but were born and brought up in Zimbabwe, employing more than 40 people at Kingston Deverill.///

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //Don't try to accuse me of racism while at the same time supporting the throwing off and the confiscation of a white South African's land, by a none South African who happens to be black. //

I am not accusing you of anything AO - I am merely exploring your view as you appear to have expressed it. If you think my analysis is incorrect, then let's discuss it, but we can't start with assumptions that are untrue.

Speaking of which, I have not stated any support for the throwing of the farmer and his family of their land - please do not read something into my posts which is not there.

Thank you.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //If that is not racism I don't know what is, as I have already said throw this doctor and his wife from their home, it is the only fair thing to do. //

As I have already stated, Mr Mugabe is acting on the basis of his acknowledged and indeed stated antipathy towards white people in his country.

I cannot believe that you think an appropriate response to Mr Mugabe's abhorrent dictatorship is to act exactly as he does - in a civilised free country like Britain, with a British citizen? Surely that cannot be right.

[bazwillrun]

"You must be rubbing your hands in glee at this story anotheroldgit. How long has it taken for you to get a story where you can shout from the roof tops 'see I told you so'!!! "

It was you that said it though !

you sound somewhat piqued ..now why would that be ?

Lets be honest youve proven yet again that you really dont have anything of any value to say...

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// The African civilisations had survived for millennia before their lands were appropriated and made 'efficient' to Western standards. ///

The African Continent is a very large place and parts of it were uninhabited by the indigenous people.

The colonists, built dams, and irrigated vast areas, so that it could be farmed, which attracted the natives into these areas.

/// And the living/working conditions weren't as cosy as your outmoded paternalistic notions would have you believe. ///

You have no idea at all, all your views are governed by your PC induced ideas.

Let me educate you regarding Zimbabwe, a very close work colleague and friend lived and farmed in Rhodesia as it once was, he would tell me that he would provide comfortable living accommodation for them on his plantation, he would pay his workers at the end of the week, and by the end of the weekend they would have blown the lot on booze etc partying all weekend, so much so that come the week they would chop up the doors of their chalets for firewood.

[anotheoldgit]

/// in a civilised free country like Britain, with a British citizen? Surely that cannot be right. ///

The wife of that 'British' citizen of only 15 years is believed to be a relative of Mugabe's wife Grace.

That says it all Hughes.

[mushroom25]

there are those who don't like it, but it's the law pertaining in a sovereign state; the farmers can be removed from their land and they have. it might not be morally fair but it's still the law of the land.

those who live in scotland who don't like it should be looking over their shoulders as the SNP could well instigate their own land-grab policy....
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/05/21/david-camerons-estate-owning-father-in-law-snp-mugabe-style-land-grab-rural-scotland_n_7349918.html

[andy-hughes]

AOG - ///// in a civilised free country like Britain, with a British citizen? Surely that cannot be right. ///

The wife of that 'British' citizen of only 15 years is believed to be a relative of Mugabe's wife Grace.

That says it all Hughes. //

We are possibly at cross purposes here -

I am unsure why you have put the word British in inverted commas - if the gentleman concerned is a British citizen, then he is, and entitled to all the protections and privileges that are entailed with that status - he length of citizenship is not a sliding scale of benefits and rights.

I am aware of the connection between the wife of the gentleman concerned, and Mrs Mugabe - I have not for one moment posted the slightest hint of support for Mr Mugabe's actions - his nepotism simply makes his behaviour more repellent.

So please don't be cross, and don't be personally offensive when you perceive me as taking a position of defence of this action, when I have done no such thing - as I have already advised.

Thank you.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// I assume your post is directed at me Talbot? If not, my apologies. ///

Funny how one can get confused when the poster had already stated who it was addressed to, unless of course your second name also happens to be Jack..

*** That is an interesting and at the same time surprising comment, Jack. ***

[david small]

Wake up and smell the coffee. I have been the recipient of "racism" in Africa and India. It's a two way street. It happens, has always happened, and probably always will happen as long as we have holes in our bottoms.
If it wasn't colour or creed its religious belief. Man by nature is a poor primitive creature. Some brave enlightened souls excepted.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

I would at least expected for you to comment on the matter of this British citizen accepting this farm, courtesy his wife's influence with the Mugabe family.

If he were a decent and loyal British citizen, the Doctor would have immediately refused the offer, in the true British tradition of fair play.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - ///// I assume your post is directed at me Talbot? If not, my apologies. ///

Funny how one can get confused when the poster had already stated who it was addressed to, unless of course your second name also happens to be Jack.. //

Talbot's post said the following - // I wasn't addressing the comment to you.

But seen as you think you are a spokesperson for Jth .... You think racism is sometimes ok? //

That post appeared to be directed at me, so I queried it with my answer - I don't see a problem with that.

I also don't see a problem with anyone responding to a comment addressed to another AB'er, you and I, and lots of others, do it all the time.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //I would at least expected for you to comment on the matter of this British citizen accepting this farm, courtesy his wife's influence with the Mugabe family. //

If I was not counteracting unfounded accusations of racism, I may have got round to it, but I just haven't had the time.

//If he were a decent and loyal British citizen, the Doctor would have immediately refused the offer, in the true British tradition of fair play. //

That's for the Doctor, his conscience, and is sense of 'fair play' to decide isn't it.

[sp1814]

AOG

"One of your own".

Oooh...you really ought to have thought that one through.

[sp1814]

But back to your point...why would the British government want to compensate the farmer???

Is it because he's 'one of ours'?

And what is this word 'racism'!

Is it not the word that PC liberals use to shut down all arguments?!?!!

It certainly was last week, and the week before (and so on).

[sp1814]

Just to state my own opinion in this swarm of agenda-pushing...this land reclamation process is utterly unjust. It's pure racism dressed up as compensation and was introduced to enhance Mugabe's popularity.

I want to wish Mugabe a slow painful cancer-ridden death. But I won't.