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What can be done before all this becomes out of control?
What can be done before all this becomes out of control?
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andy-hughes
/// Would that European governments took the same firm stance and sorted out their populace - immigrant and domestic. ///
Yes but so far they have failed to do so, and that is the reason for this very long debate, and why you left leaning persons, who have no other practical solution to the ever growing problem, tend to side with the perpetrators rather than what appear to be the victim's saviours.
/// Would that European governments took the same firm stance and sorted out their populace - immigrant and domestic. ///
Yes but so far they have failed to do so, and that is the reason for this very long debate, and why you left leaning persons, who have no other practical solution to the ever growing problem, tend to side with the perpetrators rather than what appear to be the victim's saviours.
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jackthehat
/// For someone as insular as you regularly demonstrate yourself to be, why are you bothered about the Finnish (and insert any nation of your choice here) governments failure to act? ///
Because this is the news section and the rise of such groups are on the increase in Europe, due entirely to the bodged way that the migrant problem has been handled by our leaders.
/// We seem to have the situation under control here....from your link. ///
One such incident does not mean that we cannot afford to rest on our laurels.
/// For someone as insular as you regularly demonstrate yourself to be, why are you bothered about the Finnish (and insert any nation of your choice here) governments failure to act? ///
Because this is the news section and the rise of such groups are on the increase in Europe, due entirely to the bodged way that the migrant problem has been handled by our leaders.
/// We seem to have the situation under control here....from your link. ///
One such incident does not mean that we cannot afford to rest on our laurels.
AOG - Did you actually see what the removed thread said.....or have you simply seen --answer removed-- and gone galloping to conclusions?
Yes, there is a problem in other nation states and yes, their governments ought to have their own procedures in place to deal with this.
We, thankfully, have no problems like this, and seem to have formulated a way to deal with the ones we did have.
Yes, there is a problem in other nation states and yes, their governments ought to have their own procedures in place to deal with this.
We, thankfully, have no problems like this, and seem to have formulated a way to deal with the ones we did have.
Mr aog
It would appear that some clueless ABers who criticise but cannot construct a solution between them are now appeased that the British Government and MOD have draughted in extra troops and police to patrol the leafy rural idylls of Basingbourne in order to protect the local women from the attention of Rapists who should never be in the UK in the first place.
I find that distasteful it should happen in the first place but two here applaud the decision.
Of course it is not a major problem for the UK to implement this appeasement as the numbers are comparatively small compared to the rascist abuse and which is on a larger scale in the rest of Europe. 800 complaints in Germany alone on NYE not to mention what has happened in Sweden and Finland.
As the sight of extra uniform keeps those with no solution to the problem happy I would like to propose another solution.
Finland is one of a few countries worldwide that has the largest amount of National Service. From 18yrs 80% of male youths are conscripted into military service. The other 20% have to do civil service or they are Jehovah Witnesses and are exempt providing they provide correct certificates from their clergyman to prove they are JH.
There is every chance that those who A-H and JTH describe as Vigilante Thugs, because they don't like don't like the cut of their Jib, are ex servicemen.
The Finnish Government approach these men and say, "You seem to have time on your hands during the evenings we are implementing partial mobilization (Finnish: osittainen liikekannallepano).
I had forgot to mention ,to those who probably wouldn't know, that National servicemen are held on the reserve list until aged 50 and must attend training exercises when called upon to do so.
The Finnish Government have already supplied them with a uniform that they retain. Now they give them a gun as most soldiers carry one and send them back on the streets to protect their fellow countrymen/women from foreign invaders. Same persons, different uniforms, now are armed and get paid per month for doing something they earlier did for nothing.
Job done .Everybody happy and no need for them to get their hair cut.
Perfectly legal but then thus far they are perfectly legal now unlike the scum they are protecting the women from.
It would appear that some clueless ABers who criticise but cannot construct a solution between them are now appeased that the British Government and MOD have draughted in extra troops and police to patrol the leafy rural idylls of Basingbourne in order to protect the local women from the attention of Rapists who should never be in the UK in the first place.
I find that distasteful it should happen in the first place but two here applaud the decision.
Of course it is not a major problem for the UK to implement this appeasement as the numbers are comparatively small compared to the rascist abuse and which is on a larger scale in the rest of Europe. 800 complaints in Germany alone on NYE not to mention what has happened in Sweden and Finland.
As the sight of extra uniform keeps those with no solution to the problem happy I would like to propose another solution.
Finland is one of a few countries worldwide that has the largest amount of National Service. From 18yrs 80% of male youths are conscripted into military service. The other 20% have to do civil service or they are Jehovah Witnesses and are exempt providing they provide correct certificates from their clergyman to prove they are JH.
There is every chance that those who A-H and JTH describe as Vigilante Thugs, because they don't like don't like the cut of their Jib, are ex servicemen.
The Finnish Government approach these men and say, "You seem to have time on your hands during the evenings we are implementing partial mobilization (Finnish: osittainen liikekannallepano).
I had forgot to mention ,to those who probably wouldn't know, that National servicemen are held on the reserve list until aged 50 and must attend training exercises when called upon to do so.
The Finnish Government have already supplied them with a uniform that they retain. Now they give them a gun as most soldiers carry one and send them back on the streets to protect their fellow countrymen/women from foreign invaders. Same persons, different uniforms, now are armed and get paid per month for doing something they earlier did for nothing.
Job done .Everybody happy and no need for them to get their hair cut.
Perfectly legal but then thus far they are perfectly legal now unlike the scum they are protecting the women from.
AOG - ///// so not really comparable I would suggest. ///
That is not unusual for you to state, when your back is against the wall, and you haven't a better argument to make. //
I don't feel that my back is against the wall - simply that your analogy was flawed, so I duly dismantled it.
That is a separate point from the original debate.
That is not unusual for you to state, when your back is against the wall, and you haven't a better argument to make. //
I don't feel that my back is against the wall - simply that your analogy was flawed, so I duly dismantled it.
That is a separate point from the original debate.
Retrocop - //It would appear that some clueless ABers who criticise but cannot construct a solution between them are now appeased that the British Government and MOD have draughted in extra troops and police to patrol the leafy rural idylls of Basingbourne in order to protect the local women from the attention of Rapists who should never be in the UK in the first place.
I find that distasteful it should happen in the first place but two here applaud the decision.
Of course it is not a major problem for the UK to implement this appeasement as the numbers are comparatively small compared to the rascist abuse and which is on a larger scale in the rest of Europe. 800 complaints in Germany alone on NYE not to mention what has happened in Sweden and Finland.
As the sight of extra uniform keeps those with no solution to the problem happy I would like to propose another solution.
Finland is one of a few countries worldwide that has the largest amount of National Service. From 18yrs 80% of male youths are conscripted into military service. The other 20% have to do civil service or they are Jehovah Witnesses and are exempt providing they provide correct certificates from their clergyman to prove they are JH.
There is every chance that those who A-H and JTH describe as Vigilante Thugs, because they don't like don't like the cut of their Jib, are ex servicemen.
The Finnish Government approach these men and say, "You seem to have time on your hands during the evenings we are implementing partial mobilization (Finnish: osittainen liikekannallepano).
I had forgot to mention ,to those who probably wouldn't know, that National servicemen are held on the reserve list until aged 50 and must attend training exercises when called upon to do so.
The Finnish Government have already supplied them with a uniform that they retain. Now they give them a gun as most soldiers carry one and send them back on the streets to protect their fellow countrymen/women from foreign invaders. Same persons, different uniforms, now are armed and get paid per month for doing something they earlier did for nothing.
Job done .Everybody happy and no need for them to get their hair cut.
Perfectly legal but then thus far they are perfectly legal now unlike the scum they are protecting the women from. //
Welcome back!
For someone who was leaving the debate, that's quite a contribution.
But I must say, it sounds on principle like a wonderful idea.
The point about using National Service personnel is that they are known, trained, and most importantly, accountable - which overcomes all my objections to the vigilante groups in one fell swoop.
I find that distasteful it should happen in the first place but two here applaud the decision.
Of course it is not a major problem for the UK to implement this appeasement as the numbers are comparatively small compared to the rascist abuse and which is on a larger scale in the rest of Europe. 800 complaints in Germany alone on NYE not to mention what has happened in Sweden and Finland.
As the sight of extra uniform keeps those with no solution to the problem happy I would like to propose another solution.
Finland is one of a few countries worldwide that has the largest amount of National Service. From 18yrs 80% of male youths are conscripted into military service. The other 20% have to do civil service or they are Jehovah Witnesses and are exempt providing they provide correct certificates from their clergyman to prove they are JH.
There is every chance that those who A-H and JTH describe as Vigilante Thugs, because they don't like don't like the cut of their Jib, are ex servicemen.
The Finnish Government approach these men and say, "You seem to have time on your hands during the evenings we are implementing partial mobilization (Finnish: osittainen liikekannallepano).
I had forgot to mention ,to those who probably wouldn't know, that National servicemen are held on the reserve list until aged 50 and must attend training exercises when called upon to do so.
The Finnish Government have already supplied them with a uniform that they retain. Now they give them a gun as most soldiers carry one and send them back on the streets to protect their fellow countrymen/women from foreign invaders. Same persons, different uniforms, now are armed and get paid per month for doing something they earlier did for nothing.
Job done .Everybody happy and no need for them to get their hair cut.
Perfectly legal but then thus far they are perfectly legal now unlike the scum they are protecting the women from. //
Welcome back!
For someone who was leaving the debate, that's quite a contribution.
But I must say, it sounds on principle like a wonderful idea.
The point about using National Service personnel is that they are known, trained, and most importantly, accountable - which overcomes all my objections to the vigilante groups in one fell swoop.
retrocop - //Every one is taken to account for unlawful actions even racist immigrant rapists and sex offenders.!!
Those who walk the streets with no intent on crime but hope to prevent it are not accountable, despite what you think of their appearance, to anyone unless they commit a crime. //
Absolutely, and that is of course as it should be.
But if a bunch of guys wearing Sons Of Odious jackets and strolling around the streets looking for immigrants whom they suspect of behaving badly, what do you think they will do - invite them to the local café for a brew and a chat?
Those who walk the streets with no intent on crime but hope to prevent it are not accountable, despite what you think of their appearance, to anyone unless they commit a crime. //
Absolutely, and that is of course as it should be.
But if a bunch of guys wearing Sons Of Odious jackets and strolling around the streets looking for immigrants whom they suspect of behaving badly, what do you think they will do - invite them to the local café for a brew and a chat?
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