Shouldn't This Peaceful Silent March Be Allowed To Take Place Without Violent Opposition?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/pegida-uk-hundreds-attend-birmingham-central-mosque-opposition-tommy-robinsons-anti-islam-march-1542279

[agchristie]

I'm a stayer not a sprinter Sp. May as well keep this thread going until April at this rate...

So many contributors and yet we still don't appear to have bottomed the issues.

Still got that BBQ fired up??

[agchristie]

Sp, by the way, that wasn't Annie Lennox - if it was, I take it that wouldn't have been a 'Sweet Surprise' for you?

[jackthehat]

///I wish the ban on overposting would return.///

When you fell foul of it so often....?!?

[sp1814]

agchristie

Let's not start a Lennox/Eurythmics pun session.

Please.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

Now it is you who is being selective, you failed to add the foot note.

*** National Front supporters at the Pegida UK rally in Newcastle city centre ***
/// Some more Pegida marchers: ///

Where?

There is no suggestion that this group were part of pegida UK or anywhere near their demonstration.

But the press and apparently yourself love to band them all together.

[agchristie]

AOG - If they look the same then they must belong to the same group and share exactly the same approach. That is sp's stance even though it has been explained the diverse background of the attendees. When I stated to sp that he couldn't possibly know the profile he stated its not 'Miss Marple'.

Methinks he needs to dig deeper rather than judging the book by the cover....

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1487888/counter-pegida.jpg?w=736

They should have been in Cologne on New Years Eve, then they might have come in contact with much worse than a political party that ceased to exist in 1945.

[agchristie]

^ because things like that only ever happy to other people of course. I wonder how many of the 347 complainants of sexual assault are anti-Pegida now that were before?

[anotheoldgit]

Thanks everyone for a very long and stimulating debate.

Little did I realise that when I constructed this thread it would attract so much support for Tommy Robinson and the concerns highlighted by him.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //Thanks everyone for a very long and stimulating debate.

Little did I realise that when I constructed this thread it would attract so much support for Tommy Robinson and the concerns highlighted by him. //

In the interests of balance, should you not also mention how much condemnation it attracted for Tommy Robinson and has approach to dealing with those concerns?

[agchristie]

^ Andy, he's thanked everyone. Isn't that sufficient?

It was indeed a good debate ;)

[andy-hughes]

AG - // Isn't that sufficient? //

I don't believe so.

If you infer that everyone agreed that Tommy Robinson is a wonderful example for mankind, then all you have is a six-hundred-plus list of people agreeing with each other.

A cursory glance proves that this is clearly not the case - as it wouldn't be, because otherwise there would have been no debate at all - and that is what AOG is thanking people for.

It's a nice courtesy to thank people for contributing to a thread, but disingenuous to infer that everyone agreed with your original position.

[agchristie]

Andy, but he is correct. He stated 'so much support', not 'complete support'.

[-Talbot-]

AOG
Little did I realise that when I constructed this thread it would attract so much support for Tommy Robinson and the concerns highlighted by him.


I wasn't necessarily supporting Tommy Robinson but I will always say when someone is talking sense ... They are talking sense. I will also speak out when someone tries to make out someone is something they are not.

[andy-hughes]

AG - //Andy, but he is correct. He stated 'so much support', not 'complete support'. //

Semantics is not the issue - balance is.

To have a debate, you must have two opposing views, so in my opinion, to infer that the majority of people support Mr Robinson's views do not reflect the debate that you and I and many others took part in.

[agchristie]

That was the issue for some Talbot, it couldn't possibly be common sense simply because it was TR who provided some of the dialogue...