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Parents Object To Muslim Lessons At School.
I dont think I would be very happy if one of my children went there, considering the ongoing problems around Europe..
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For goodness sake. Never mind about lessons on Islam let us have lessons throughout the UK on British Values & the necessity of integration. Please let me remind you once more this is a British country & if foreign tribes wish to settle here the least they should do is learn our language & customs.
16:24 Thu 11th Feb 2016
Perhaps it was injudicious in the current climate. It reminds me of the old joke:
When a teacher asked her class to write something about the police, one boy wrote,'Pleece is bazdads'. Shocked at this she arranged for the local community officer to come and give the class a talk. This he did, also handing out balloons and lollipops.
The following day she asked the class to write about the police again. The same boy wrote, 'Pleece is cunning bazdads'.
When a teacher asked her class to write something about the police, one boy wrote,'Pleece is bazdads'. Shocked at this she arranged for the local community officer to come and give the class a talk. This he did, also handing out balloons and lollipops.
The following day she asked the class to write about the police again. The same boy wrote, 'Pleece is cunning bazdads'.
trt - //We are losing our British Identity, or have lost it in some parts of the UK, //
If you think one visit by one Muslim with a general educational talk pitched at the childrens' comprehension level is going to further the 'loss of our British Identity', it would infer that our 'identity' is not really that strong to begin with.
My grandson was shown how to make pancakes at Beavers on Tuesday - thus far he has not offered any intention to depose Marco Pierre White - but I will advise you if and when that happens.
If you think one visit by one Muslim with a general educational talk pitched at the childrens' comprehension level is going to further the 'loss of our British Identity', it would infer that our 'identity' is not really that strong to begin with.
My grandson was shown how to make pancakes at Beavers on Tuesday - thus far he has not offered any intention to depose Marco Pierre White - but I will advise you if and when that happens.
Svejk - //Andy, if all the snakes in the world looked the same you'd be better off giving them all a wide berth. //
What a strange statement!
Far be it from me to put words in your mouth - but does your statement infer that you think all Muslims look alike?
There is a term for that sort of generalisation.
What a strange statement!
Far be it from me to put words in your mouth - but does your statement infer that you think all Muslims look alike?
There is a term for that sort of generalisation.
Svejk - /////My son was taught about Hitler at school......as far as I know he has no plans to invade Poland.///
By a Nazi? //
If you think children absorb knowledge on a sliding scale dependent on your perceived authenticity of the teacher involved - then you don't know very much about children - or education - or probably Nazis!
By a Nazi? //
If you think children absorb knowledge on a sliding scale dependent on your perceived authenticity of the teacher involved - then you don't know very much about children - or education - or probably Nazis!
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I have just watched the video. I'm impressed by her memory of figures she's learnt. But the problem is that the question asked was not answered. A rousing speech was made instead. The question was how one would win with weapons, how could one win if one didn't tackle the idealogical issues. The questioner seemed to regret the lack of fellow Muslims there. In the response speech the panellist tried to turn that lack against the questioner, and I suspect showed why many felt they would not be welcome in the hall and so chose not to go.
The point about the majority not having enough power to sway the majority in the stated cases is fair enough, as long as one doesn't treat the majority as if they were irrelevant. That is neither reasonable nor moral.
The point about the majority not having enough power to sway the majority in the stated cases is fair enough, as long as one doesn't treat the majority as if they were irrelevant. That is neither reasonable nor moral.
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hughes Svejk - //Andy, if all the snakes in the world looked the same you'd be better off giving them all a wide berth. //
///What a strange statement!
Far be it from me to put words in your mouth - but does your statement infer that you think all Muslims look alike?///
I can't tell an Islamist from an 'ordinary' Muslim. Can you?
///What a strange statement!
Far be it from me to put words in your mouth - but does your statement infer that you think all Muslims look alike?///
I can't tell an Islamist from an 'ordinary' Muslim. Can you?
Svejk - //I can't tell an Islamist from an 'ordinary' Muslim. Can you? //
Another odd statement!
I wouldn't know that Anjem Coudary was an ignorant bigoted disgrace to his faith by looking at him - I wouldn't know that Tommy Robinson is an ignorant puffed-up self-publicist without looking at him either!
It's about context isn't it?
If you are going to go around assuming that every man with a dark skin and a beard is a fundamentalist, you might as well assume that every man with a white skin in an anorak with a peaky blinders haircut is a agitating crowd-baiter.
But we like to give people the benefit of the doubt - at least as far as looking at them - don't we?
Another odd statement!
I wouldn't know that Anjem Coudary was an ignorant bigoted disgrace to his faith by looking at him - I wouldn't know that Tommy Robinson is an ignorant puffed-up self-publicist without looking at him either!
It's about context isn't it?
If you are going to go around assuming that every man with a dark skin and a beard is a fundamentalist, you might as well assume that every man with a white skin in an anorak with a peaky blinders haircut is a agitating crowd-baiter.
But we like to give people the benefit of the doubt - at least as far as looking at them - don't we?
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fender62 - //but all muslims are the same there allegiance is to the koran, and all that is written in it, the prophet is the example all must strive to live like...
then you to can possibly fly to heaven on a winged horse. //
Do you really think that all Muslims are absolutely equal in their devotion to their faith?
Do you believe that all Christians go to church on Sunday / read their bible every day / pray regularly / do good works for poor people ..
Hopefully that illustration points out the lack of evidence of logic in your observation.
then you to can possibly fly to heaven on a winged horse. //
Do you really think that all Muslims are absolutely equal in their devotion to their faith?
Do you believe that all Christians go to church on Sunday / read their bible every day / pray regularly / do good works for poor people ..
Hopefully that illustration points out the lack of evidence of logic in your observation.
AH
/// If you read in the paper that all Christians behaved like twelfth century crusaders, raping and pillaging their way through a foreign country, you would know that it is not representative of the way the Christian faith teaches its followers. ///
That was in the 12th century, much has changed since then, why even the children know we wear a different type of dress than we did then.
The problem being that Islam has not moved on, and the kids have only to read the papers or to watch the TV news to realise that.
/// If you read in the paper that all Christians behaved like twelfth century crusaders, raping and pillaging their way through a foreign country, you would know that it is not representative of the way the Christian faith teaches its followers. ///
That was in the 12th century, much has changed since then, why even the children know we wear a different type of dress than we did then.
The problem being that Islam has not moved on, and the kids have only to read the papers or to watch the TV news to realise that.
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