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Education Secretary Nicky Morgan Has Been Met With Shouts Of "rubbish" As She Told Teachers About Plans To Turn All Schools In England Into An Academy.
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How this daft woman has the nerve to appear in public, so soon after making a complete wassock of herself on Question Time is beyond me !
How this daft woman has the nerve to appear in public, so soon after making a complete wassock of herself on Question Time is beyond me !
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// academies are about devolving power locally //
and
// away from local government stranglehold //
Those two statements are contradictary, as well as being wrong.
Academies are run by the Department of Education from Whitehall. That is definitely not devolving poer locally.
The Welsh want powers delolved from Westminister, so there is no inconsistency in Mikey not wanting local schools to be run from there.
// academies are about devolving power locally //
and
// away from local government stranglehold //
Those two statements are contradictary, as well as being wrong.
Academies are run by the Department of Education from Whitehall. That is definitely not devolving poer locally.
The Welsh want powers delolved from Westminister, so there is no inconsistency in Mikey not wanting local schools to be run from there.
agchristie...I am sorry but I am still of the opinion that Nicky performed badly on QT....she was like a rabbit caught in the headlights.
If she is going to run with this proposal concerning Academy schools in England, I think she is heading for a huge fall, if what Gromit tells us turns out to be the case.
Don't get me wrong...she appears to be very nice and not anything like as rabid as some Tories appear to be, but I think she has been promoted above her station, and I am not remotely concerned what school she herself went to, as it is irrelevant to this issue.
If she is going to run with this proposal concerning Academy schools in England, I think she is heading for a huge fall, if what Gromit tells us turns out to be the case.
Don't get me wrong...she appears to be very nice and not anything like as rabid as some Tories appear to be, but I think she has been promoted above her station, and I am not remotely concerned what school she herself went to, as it is irrelevant to this issue.
Mikey > I am not remotely concerned what school she herself went to, as it is irrelevant to this issue
I was merely challenging your assertion that she is 'daft' when her education proves otherwise. It is relevant to this issue because otherwise she would not be considered qualified to make the speech today. Or are you saying that her performance on QT be the yardstick to judge her capability to perform her duties?
A certain Mr McDonnell didn't cover himself in glory on QT did he when he appeared!? How many of the Labour Shadow Cabinet have been promoted above their ability?
I was merely challenging your assertion that she is 'daft' when her education proves otherwise. It is relevant to this issue because otherwise she would not be considered qualified to make the speech today. Or are you saying that her performance on QT be the yardstick to judge her capability to perform her duties?
A certain Mr McDonnell didn't cover himself in glory on QT did he when he appeared!? How many of the Labour Shadow Cabinet have been promoted above their ability?
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Divebuddy,
Analysis by the Torygraph...
// Based on the analysis of the government figures, The Telegraph found that the top 1 per cent of state schools, or 21 schools, achieve better results than 98 per cent of private schools, or 512 schools.
When the point score per pupil is analysed, the top 500 state schools average 883 points while the top 500 independent schools is 845. On this measure, only four of the leading 20 schools in the country are private. //
Analysis by the Torygraph...
// Based on the analysis of the government figures, The Telegraph found that the top 1 per cent of state schools, or 21 schools, achieve better results than 98 per cent of private schools, or 512 schools.
When the point score per pupil is analysed, the top 500 state schools average 883 points while the top 500 independent schools is 845. On this measure, only four of the leading 20 schools in the country are private. //
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Mikey > Until she proves that she has understood an issue, which she quite clearly hadn't with the Budget proposals...
I still don't understand the logic of her not being fit to be Minister for Education because of a so-called poor performance on QT, arising from her misunderstanding of the Budget in your opinion.
I still don't understand the logic of her not being fit to be Minister for Education because of a so-called poor performance on QT, arising from her misunderstanding of the Budget in your opinion.
agchristie...I fear that I may still not be making myself clear !
She is a Government Minister and thus a Member of the Cabinet. She would have been party to the elements that Osborne and Dave presented to the HOC. But her performance on QT quite clearly showed, that, like the rest of us, she hadn't understood the implications of the proposals for disabled people in the Budget, and indeed, she thought that they were only "proposals, " not actually policy.
She appeared on the program, as a representative of the Tory Party, and the Government. It was an entirely understandable expectation of all of us, that she should have understood what the Budget proposals meant, but it was clear, within seconds, that she didn't.
This was a lamentable performance. She wasn't just some multi-purpose Tory person, plucked from the local Tory Womens Guild...she was a senior member of the Cabinet.
I take it that you have watched that episode of QT, or at least an extract ?
She is a Government Minister and thus a Member of the Cabinet. She would have been party to the elements that Osborne and Dave presented to the HOC. But her performance on QT quite clearly showed, that, like the rest of us, she hadn't understood the implications of the proposals for disabled people in the Budget, and indeed, she thought that they were only "proposals, " not actually policy.
She appeared on the program, as a representative of the Tory Party, and the Government. It was an entirely understandable expectation of all of us, that she should have understood what the Budget proposals meant, but it was clear, within seconds, that she didn't.
This was a lamentable performance. She wasn't just some multi-purpose Tory person, plucked from the local Tory Womens Guild...she was a senior member of the Cabinet.
I take it that you have watched that episode of QT, or at least an extract ?
Mikey, there have been any amount of senior politicians across all parties who have given a poor interview or tv appearance. It does not make them unfit for their everyday role.
Morgan will have been in her current post for two years in July and there is no sign that Cameron proposes to move her.
As I stated, Theresa May has had difficult times and Jeremy Hunt currently. You wouldn't say Hunt was unfit for office just because of opposition from junior doctors.
Politicians are human and all will have misunderstood issues at some point but that doesn't make them incapable or otherwise Morgan would have been ousted!
Morgan will have been in her current post for two years in July and there is no sign that Cameron proposes to move her.
As I stated, Theresa May has had difficult times and Jeremy Hunt currently. You wouldn't say Hunt was unfit for office just because of opposition from junior doctors.
Politicians are human and all will have misunderstood issues at some point but that doesn't make them incapable or otherwise Morgan would have been ousted!
And the Conservative County Councils begin to assert themselves. Prepare for another Government defeat. Osborne is driving this, and the rebels can smell blood...
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// The leaders of the Conservative, Labour and Liberal Democrat parties in local government have united to demand that the government drops controversial plans to force all schools to become academies by 2022 in a massive blow to its flagship education policy.
The formation of a cross-party alliance comes amid signs that ministers face an uphill struggle if and when they try to force the plans announced by George Osborne in his budget through Parliament.
In their letter the Local Government Association leaders say the plans have “caused enormous concern among councillors across the political spectrum.”
They add: “We urge the government to listen to the concerns of families, teachers, unions, politicians and experts and rethink the proposals in the white paper.” //
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// The leaders of the Conservative, Labour and Liberal Democrat parties in local government have united to demand that the government drops controversial plans to force all schools to become academies by 2022 in a massive blow to its flagship education policy.
The formation of a cross-party alliance comes amid signs that ministers face an uphill struggle if and when they try to force the plans announced by George Osborne in his budget through Parliament.
In their letter the Local Government Association leaders say the plans have “caused enormous concern among councillors across the political spectrum.”
They add: “We urge the government to listen to the concerns of families, teachers, unions, politicians and experts and rethink the proposals in the white paper.” //
Svejk,
It looks like it is Osborne who has gone rogue. He is imposing policy on his fellow Cabinet Ministers, and they are too scared to say no.
Only the most arrogant Chancellor would think he could steal local schools from his Conservative County Councils. He really is heading for another embarrassing fall over this. A stupid move when the Conservative rebels are eager to inflict as much damage as possible on Gideon.
This doesn't have cat in hells chance of ever happening.
It looks like it is Osborne who has gone rogue. He is imposing policy on his fellow Cabinet Ministers, and they are too scared to say no.
Only the most arrogant Chancellor would think he could steal local schools from his Conservative County Councils. He really is heading for another embarrassing fall over this. A stupid move when the Conservative rebels are eager to inflict as much damage as possible on Gideon.
This doesn't have cat in hells chance of ever happening.
// A quarter of a million children are still in failing state schools.//
a lot of them seem to e in Manchester ....
I thought she had a good line in argument - to wit
you are responsible for education of the young and the output data is truly carp so do something about other than snigger ....
and after 50 y or failed experiments
teachers should not agonise about the methods of teaching
but just get on with it as other nations do
a lot of them seem to e in Manchester ....
I thought she had a good line in argument - to wit
you are responsible for education of the young and the output data is truly carp so do something about other than snigger ....
and after 50 y or failed experiments
teachers should not agonise about the methods of teaching
but just get on with it as other nations do
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