Another Senior Tory Being Bullied And Threatened Because He Favours Brexit

[lindapalmara]

http://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-mail/20160329/281840052801228/textview

[dannyk13]

So much for Cameron allowing a free vote on the referendum,.

[retrocop]

Cameron lost my trust some months ago.Out of Europe pronto and new Tory leader who can handle our own affairs. I don't believe Cameron is up to it.

[dannyk13]

Further to that ,if the Brexit campaign is successful then we would not be represented in the European Parliament which would make Cameron's threat pretty empty.

[naomi24]

Who are we to believe? An unnamed source who is allegedly back by three other unnamed people, or the ‘victim’ who says the conversation “has been blown out of all proportion by Chinese whispers. All my conversations with the Prime Minister on the EU referendum have been civil.” Sounds like the wooden spoon is out to me, but I suppose we can expect a lot of this sort of thing in the coming months - from all sides - so we'd be very silly not to take much of what's reported with a very large pinch of salt.

[naomi24]

*backed*

[sp1814]

lindapalmara

For as long as I can remember, the Conservatives have had a really bad problem with infighting when it comes to Europe. It doesn't seem to affect any of the other main parties as the Tories.

I have a (completely unsubstantiated) theory.

Here goes...

Historically, (at least up until the 80s) the Tories were made of two distinct groups - traditionalists (conservatives with a small 'c') and business people / industrialists. It seems that the fault lines in the Tories is right at this point.

The Eurosceptics are the traditional right of the party, and the Europhiles are those business owners who look at Europe as a commercial gateway.

[viv41]

retro, I totally agree with you !

[Peter Pedant]

God you have to feel sorry for all these old etonian politicians

it is a hard life in whitehall

[Tilly2]

I think Mr Cameron is losing the plot.

[jourdain2]

I think it was about 2 years ago that I finally realised that Cameron was a nasty little bully of the worst sort, hiding behind cohorts and smooth public statements. A horrible man, who has fooled a lot of the people a lot of the time.

I don't believe a word he says - and neither does OH. After over 50 yrs. of counting himself a Tory, OH despises the man and 1) Didn't vote for him and 2) wouldn't for him even if Corbyn were the alternative. Me, I gave up party voting years ago.

I'm waiting for the knock on the door from men wearing big suits.... :(

[youngmafbog]

I agree. Cameron really is a nasty little bully just like hus buddy Gideon. The sooner the party get shot of him the better.

Until they do I certainly wont vote Tory again and I was a card carrying Tory, gave it up when he started his bullying a few years back. I only voted Tory last time to get a vote on out, I suspect many others did the same. Dave may not really be as popular as he might like to think.

[naomi24]

//Until they do I certainly wont vote Tory again ...//

The alternative is a bleak prospect.

[lindapalmara]

I too, as a lifelong Tory will never vote for Cameron any more and also Osborne.

[naomi24]

lindapalmara , So you, like others here, would risk abandoning this country to the alternative? Really? Leaders can be replaced, and often are, so it seems a complete nonsense to me to vote for ‘the man’ rather than the fundamental philosophy. That said, the ‘victim’ here has denied the claims of the unnamed accusers – but let us not allow the facts to get in the way of the dissenting bandwagon.

[lindapalmara]

Naomi. I make that statement mainly because it's a pretty safe bet. I think Cameron will be "toast" after the referendum despite which way it goes. He will not be trusted again to manage the government. Like someone said earlier, he's a PR man, as shallow as Blair. I have been shocked by the tactics used in this debate. I expected to have a "level playing field" . How naive of me! If "Leave" win I'd like to see David Davies replace him. I used to champion Saed Javid till he turned coat over the referendum. I admire self made men!

I would never vote Labour!

[naomi24]

lindapalmara, we expect our leaders to be supermen but it's a fact of life that you can't please all of the people all of the time. I'm very pleased to hear that you won't vote Labour, but sadly some people have very short memories.

[viv41]

I'd vote Labour if Hilary Benn became leader, but not whilst Corbyn is ! Personally, I think Cameron is dead in the water ....

[retrocop]

naomi
I would never vote Labour but the only reason I voted Tory in the last General election was to keep Labour out. I would of preferred to vote UKIP but that would let Labour in.I have always been a Tory voter but I was wishing I could vote for the UKIP policy not Mr Cameron or his bluff.