The Thin End Of The Wedge?

[Khandro]

Here we go, the Muslim agenda commences;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/body-shaming-adverts-banned-london-transport-tube-sadiq-khan-a7079591.html

[Khandro]

//Not teenagers though who often feel they need to conform to a certain look.//

So shall we next ban all healthy, handsome looking men and women from the TV and the magazines which are seen by millions of teenagers? Shall we replace them with fat and ugly models so we won't upset a few teenagers?

[ummmm]

No...you're being silly.

Ban the advertisement of slimming pills on the sides of buses.

Like I said....beachwear, underwear...fine. Not slimming products.

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// If they were advertising beach wear then fine. They aren't though! ///

No, they are advertising slimming products, which in this age of obesity cannot be a bad thing.

Should we ban all adverts that help to stop people from smoking?

[RandyMarsh]

Does the advert mention health AOG?

[Mamyalynne]

Nothing wrong in advertising your huge money making product, but don't do it in such a way as to imply anyone over a size 10 is cluttering up the beach.

For what it's worth slimming products are mostly a waste of time for the consumer, promote healthy eating.

[ummmm]

The best way to lose weight is by diet and exercise, not pills! Pills should not be encouraged, our daughters shouldn't be made to think thin is attractive. Our sons shouldn't be made to feel that a 6 pack makes them more attractive.

Our kids don't have to be fat to be made to feel they are overweight.

[Ellipsis]

> All those adverts can adorn buses and tubes without using pictures which belong in lads mags.

I think you have missed the point completely.

Some people want to live their life in such a way that they prepare a nice, fit, toned shapely body for the beach. Why should they be denied advertisements that help them to do so, as long as the advertisements are for legal products?

One reason could be that the advertisements are for unhealthy products (e.g. cigarettes), but that is not the reason given for banning these ads. The reason given is that the adverts "make people feel ashamed of their bodies or pressured into looking a certain way." But the same might be said of many other ads. E.g. an ad showing a young, tall man in a nice suit may make an older, short man feel ashamed of his body - should the suit ad be banned?

[sp1814]

Ellipsis

They can still see the adverts.

They just won't be shown on buses and tubes.

[sp1814]

Khandro

Why do you think this ban is indicative of Khan's faith?

Do you think my examples of where he stands is an indication that our Mayor is progressive?

If not - does that mean that you believe all Muslims are cut from the same cloth and in their hearts they are extremists?

[Ellipsis]

> Ellipsis
> They can still see the adverts.
> They just won't be shown on buses and tubes.

!facepalm!

[Mamyalynne]

It's understandable we've got side tracked into the bigger topic of advertising - however the premise of the OP was...

'Here we go, the Muslim agenda commences' - implyinmg this was a new occurrence.

When in fact the adverts and others similar have been the subject of protests and petitions and even the odd semi dressed demonstration for well over a year.

[sp1814]

Mamalynne

Thank you!!!

I think you might have reached the same conclusion as some of the rest of us.

[sp1814]

Ellipsis

You asked:

an ad showing a young, tall man in a nice suit may make an older, short man feel ashamed of his body - should the suit ad be banned?

That is reductio ad absurdum.

Might have spelled that wrong but...

I'm interested to hear whether you think that Mayor Khan's ban is indicative of some underlying Islamic extremism, as Khandro appears to believe.

[Ellipsis]

No, it demonstrates a behaviour shared by many Muslims and non-Muslims in power, namely the exercising of that power in draconian ways that frown upon certain perfectly healthy and legal lifestyles choices ...

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// Not teenagers though who often feel they need to conform to a certain look. ///

Where is there any suggestion of teenagers in the advert?

[ummmm]

Okay....so teenagers are blind!

[anotheoldgit]

RandyMarsh

/// Does the advert mention health AOG? ///

I have never said it did.

But to answer your question, in a way it does, suggesting that it is healthy to slim down to a beach ready figure.

[retrocop]

I agree with Mamyalynne. The question of scantily clad females advertising lingerie on the tfl escalators has long been subject of outrage and I recall it was the feminists howling about demeaning the female body etc etc.
Khan did not instigate this recent display of objection but boy does he know how to jump in and seize an issue to suit his own agenda. Boris seemed to busy himself with more important issues when this was raised long ago.
Khan has now pleased the feminists and shown his muslim credentials at the same time.If Khan was that concerned all these years in London ( after all he was the son of a London bus driver :-)) he might of said he was going to ban this advertising in his mayoral election manifesto. Pure opportunism by Khan imo.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// Not having a faith, I cannot speak for how much, little, or it at all, his faith influenced him here - but my point is, there is no indication of it, except in Khandro's fertile imagination. ///

No need for the sarcastic rudeness Andy.

And how do you or anyone else for that matter know that his faith didn't have something to do with his decision?

Only Sadiq Khan knows, and he is hardly likely to admit that it is for his religious beliefs.

[EDDIE51]

What has this got to do with Muslims? Less than nothing I suspect!
It is a good idea and has my support.