What Is Boris Up To

[Ric.ror]

He's not standing

[DTCwordfan]

Nope - and JC wouldn't have faced his problems either, not yet.

Time for a news caption if I can find the pic that was on my FB

[DTCwordfan]

meanwhile I love this one

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13512215_144250449312527_4496556638777295271_n.jpg?oh=a0c3820e75f2a8fbc4266761dfe97fef&oe=57FC5353

[EDDIE51]

Problem is Parliament are over 80% in favour of staying in the EU. The country are split 48 to 52 in favour of leaving. Parliament will delay starting the 'leave' process as long as possible. It is hard to see how they could get a vote to start the exit process through parliament anyway.
It is not unusual for parliament to be unpopular with over 50% of the population, so they will not worry about being unpopular by delaying A50 in the hope that a 'new deal' is organised that will allow them to say we are not going to leave after all.

[Old_Geezer]

How can it not be ?

It's not like a simple club situation, in this situation an exiting nation still has to trade with the other European nations whether inside or outside the tyranny of the EU. Leaving a social "club" doesn't mean you have to continue as you were, you can simply go and take up another interest.

Any rational response from both sides would ensure an acceptable deal to keep disruption and loss to a minimum for all. Any deliberate attempt to scupper that, is clearly applying a penalty. In fact a case of cutting one's nose off to spite one's face.

One can split the two sides of this. View it as not being a penalty to lose benefits for leaving but a penalty for not reinstating them as a sensible alternative trading agreement; if that makes it any clearer.

It is also an error to simplify the situation as "the UK being more important to the EU than the other members". It's more complex than a case of prioritising us or the rest.

The other governments of countries in the EU may not be opting to leave (yet) but within each nation there is no 100% agreement on membership being a good thing. This is why the EU has an issue dissuading others to follow the UK out in the first place.

It is always a case of each country separately deciding if the demands of the EU is worth the benefit of the freedom of movement of goods. It is many different relationships not a single "who's priority" one.

[Old_Geezer]

That was in response to Garaman.
I type slowly and have to check every word three times to minimise "typos".

[Garaman]

I will leave it there, OG. I was in the remain camp but it is really interesting to hear rational arguments from the other side. We are all in the leave camp now so just hope it goes as well as some on here forecast.

Best to all.

[jourdain2]

I predict civil strife if Parliament stops Britain from leaving the EU. I seriously do think this will happen. Constituency parties will tell their MPs that they vote against Leave at their peril and there will be a 3-line whip.

[Gromit]

Parliament closes for summer in a fortnight, and returns in September. Absolutely nothing will happen until then.

In the meantime a New Deal with the EU will be thrashed out .

There will be a General Election on 13th October, where the electorate will elect a Conservative Government that has pledged to accept a New Deal from the EU.

[jourdain2]

The turn-out would be in the region of 10 - 15% gromit - or most papers will be spoiled. Besides which, UKIP will stand and win in many, many constituencies. The Conservatives would be finished and they are not that stupid. I think you are right in that that is how many are thinking - but it is unacceptable in the country. Not sure where you live, but here the atmosphere is still joyous in the streets and shops - all smiles. Everyone, everyone (bar a very few) is saying what a great day we have seen and is looking forwards to an independent future.

I repeat that I think that there will be very serious trouble if the will of the people is thwarted.